1. RE: Any DDJ articles on Eu?
- Posted by ernobe at msn.com
Jan 26, 2002
freeplay at mailandnews.com wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I too have been considering putting together an article about Euphoria
> and
> yes I have been thinking "maybe this is Rob's job" but now I'm thinking
> from a different tack:
>
> Fact One:
>
> Rob is way, way, way too busy doing Euphoria stuff to get into such
> "self
> promotion".
>
> Fact two:
>
> Promoting and spreading the word of Euphoria will be better received
> from
> happy users of the language (who have even paid for the full version)
> than
> from it's creator. I bought a Ford because a friend let me try his and
> I
> liked it - _not_ because Henry T. just said his cars were great. (No
> flames on the better or worseness of Fords please - it's an analogy 
.
>
> So my advice is submit as many articles as possible. I'll be working on
> mine for sure. I'm _always_ telling my friends and work associates
> about
> Euphoria. Recently we saw Euphoria beat the pants off UNIX based Perl
> in a
> particular benchmarked task which is great because I now have evidence
> that
> Linux Sys Admins (the unwashed masses at slashdot.org take note >
> should
> listen to.
>
> Euphoria makes programming sense - make everyone you know aware of this!
>
> Let's face it the public domain (i.e free, no cost, no charge) version
> of
> Euphoria is so blooming powerful as a standalone bit of freeware I am
> utterlly amazed that Euphoria isn't front page news on such download
> sites
> like www.davecentral.com - how can something this great be "free"?
> Simple,
> its bloody fantastic!!!
>
> Spread the word folks.
>
All considered, probably the best selling point of Euphoria is that it
inspires innovative and creative programming. The language gives so
much freedom to create, that one should have no excuses when it comes to
providing software that evidences its full capabilities. In particular
I'm thinking of how tasks which in other languages are considered too
time-consuming, can be programmed in machine code, and made coherent and
integral parts of the whole program, whereas in other languages it would
be so complicated to implement that it never gets done. We need to be
really informed of the challenges facing the programming community in
its everyday affairs, so that we may take up these and other discarded
projects and show how simple and effective their solution is in
Euphoria. Probably we can all mention ideas of projects which we
thought would be better done in Euphoria, and it would be a good idea to
keep track of these as we may soon find ourselves not only wanting to do
them but been asked for them.
http://communities.msn.com/Semioticphilosophy
2. RE: Any DDJ articles on Eu?
Well, the "multiple submissions" idea does make sense (and truth be
told, I actually enjoy technical writing.) I think I'll try to piece
something together.
I've been quite busy lately though, and have hardly touched any code.
I'll probably finally download and play with Eu 2.3 to get versed on the
latest features (and benchmarks, heh!), but does anyone have any points
that you feel should be specifically drawn attention too (besides the
obvious, "hyped" ones like garbage collection, etc.)? Or, any points or
features that more mainstream languages tend to have yet which Eu lacks?
(For example, I've not really had a need for complex error-handling with
Eu--type-checking and abort() usually work fine. But maybe it's lack is
something that should be explained?)
Rod Jackson
freeplay at mailandnews.com wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I too have been considering putting together an article about Euphoria
> and
> yes I have been thinking "maybe this is Rob's job" but now I'm thinking
> from a different tack:
>
> Fact One:
>
> Rob is way, way, way too busy doing Euphoria stuff to get into such
> "self
> promotion".
>
> Fact two:
>
> Promoting and spreading the word of Euphoria will be better received
> from
> happy users of the language (who have even paid for the full version)
> than
> from it's creator. I bought a Ford because a friend let me try his and
> I
> liked it - _not_ because Henry T. just said his cars were great. (No
> flames on the better or worseness of Fords please - it's an analogy .
>
> So my advice is submit as many articles as possible. I'll be working on
> mine for sure. I'm _always_ telling my friends and work associates
> about
> Euphoria. Recently we saw Euphoria beat the pants off UNIX based Perl
> in a
> particular benchmarked task which is great because I now have evidence
> that
> Linux Sys Admins (the unwashed masses at slashdot.org take note >
> should
> listen to.
>
> Euphoria makes programming sense - make everyone you know aware of this!
>
> Let's face it the public domain (i.e free, no cost, no charge) version
> of
> Euphoria is so blooming powerful as a standalone bit of freeware I am
> utterlly amazed that Euphoria isn't front page news on such download
> sites
> like www.davecentral.com - how can something this great be "free"?
> Simple,
> its bloody fantastic!!!
>
> Spread the word folks.
>
> Regards,
>
> FP.
>
> At 02:23 PM 1/26/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Hello!
> >
> >To my knowledge, no, they haven't -- I've been subscribed to them for
> >two
> >years. I've considered submitting an article myself; however, like you,
> >I
> >figured that this would be a task better handled by "the bigguns," or
> perhaps
> >even Mr. Craig himself.
> >
> >I have not dealt with the CD you mentioned, either; however, I do
> >believe
> that
> >Euphoria would be something they would be interested in, considering
> >that
> >they've done articles on some of the other up-and-coming languages, like
> >
> >Ruby.
> >
> >Travis Beaty
> >Evans, Colorado.
> >
> >
> >On 26 Jan 2002 at 21:00, Rod Jackson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> It feels like I've asked this question before, but searching the mailing
> >>
> >> list archives didn't find it....
> >>
> >> As most of you know, Dr. Dobb's Journal (DDJ) is a popular magazine for
> >> programmers. I've read it off and on for years, and the most recent
> >> issue specialized on programming languages. Many were mentioned, but
> >> alas, nothing about Euphoria.
> >>
> >> My question is, has anyone ever seen a Euphoria article in DDJ? Has
> >> anyone ever submitted one, or proposed that the editors look into the
> >> language? I would think that by now surely someone has, but searching
> >> the DDJ site doesn't bring up anything either.
> >>
> >> I suppose I could submit an article myself, I'm not a bad writer; I only
> >>
> >> hesitate because I think a more "accomplished" programmer/developer
> >> (possibly one of you who have created commercial apps?) would give the
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