1. [OT] it's vs its

English lesson:
Some people use "it's" when they mean "its".
"it's" is a contraction for "it is".
"its" is possessive.

All these websites explain it's vs its:
http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~csk/its.html
http://www.stormloader.com/garyes/its/#top
http://www.fred.net/kathy/its.html
http://web.uvic.ca/wguide/Pages/UsIts.html
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/cgi-shl/quiz.pl/its_there_quiz.htm
http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/punctuation-game/its/its.html
http://www.gcse.com/english/its_confused.htm

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2. Re: [OT] it's vs its

Jerry Story wrote:
> 
> English lesson:
> Some people use "it's" when they mean "its".
> "it's" is a contraction for "it is".
> "its" is possessive.
> 

I've been hounded on IRC about it too smile I'll learn some day.

--
Jeremy Cowgar
http://jeremy.cowgar.com

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3. Re: [OT] it's vs its

Jerry Story wrote:
> 
> English lesson:
> Some people use "it's" when they mean "its".
> "it's" is a contraction for "it is".
> "its" is possessive.
> 
> All these websites explain it's vs its:
...

Yeah and some people spell 'colour' as 'color' too.  I don't think we should get
too pedantic about this stuff do you? I mean we'll never have a keyword that uses
an apostrophe in it, and I personally don't want to have to think about spelling
and grammar when I'm grappling with the abstract nature of getting a compiler to
convert my written intentions into machine code.

Good on ya though, that's one that annoys me too; when I stop to notice it that
is :)

Gary

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4. Re: [OT] it's vs its

gshingles wrote:
> 
> Jerry Story wrote:
> > 
> > English lesson:
> > Some people use "it's" when they mean "its".
> > "it's" is a contraction for "it is".
> > "its" is possessive.
> > 
> > All these websites explain it's vs its:
> ...
> 
> Yeah and some people spell 'colour' as 'color' too.  I don't think we should
> get too pedantic about this stuff do you? I mean we'll never have a keyword
> that uses an apostrophe in it, and I personally don't want to have to think
> about spelling and grammar when I'm grappling with the abstract nature of
> getting
> a compiler to convert my written intentions into machine code.
> 
> Good on ya though, that's one that annoys me too; when I stop to notice it
> that
> is :)
> 
> Gary

I won't say "just my 0.02¢, but...

I'm not pedantic about grammar, not being a specialist, writer or something. And
I think I'm fluent enough in english, which is not my native language, to still
understand everything even with some sloppy grammar.

However, I think there are quite a few people with more limited knowledge of the
language, and the sloppy grammar may make reading us significantly harder on
them. At least, that's what I experience when reading/listening to a foreign
language I don't master pretty well, so I assume other people do.

If we are serious to opening up to the world, and AFAIK we are, it could be a
good idea to straighten up these bolts, simply so as to allow other people to
understand more easily or faster, and perhaps post in. Chiding someone whose
english is not the native language for poor wording would be ridiculous and
inappropriate. Thank goodness, it hasn't happened.

Hey, I never said I wasn't making mistakes myself!! Even without the typos. I'm
not a good typist, and have ranted against too verbose constructs quite a few
times.

CChris

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5. Re: [OT] it's vs its

CChris wrote:
> 
> gshingles wrote:
> > 
> > Jerry Story wrote:
> > > 
> > > English lesson:
> > > Some people use "it's" when they mean "its".
> > > "it's" is a contraction for "it is".
> > > "its" is possessive.
> > > 
> > > All these websites explain it's vs its:
> > ...
> > 
> > Yeah and some people spell 'colour' as 'color' too.  I don't think we should
> > get too pedantic about this stuff do you? I mean we'll never have a keyword
> > that uses an apostrophe in it, and I personally don't want to have to think
> > about spelling and grammar when I'm grappling with the abstract nature of
> > getting
> > a compiler to convert my written intentions into machine code.
> > 
> > Good on ya though, that's one that annoys me too; when I stop to notice it
> > that
> > is :)
> > 
> > Gary
> 
> I won't say "just my 0.02¢, but...
> 
> I'm not pedantic about grammar, not being a specialist, writer or something.
> And I think I'm fluent enough in english, which is not my native language, to
> still understand everything even with some sloppy grammar.
> 
> However, I think there are quite a few people with more limited knowledge of
> the language, and the sloppy grammar may make reading us significantly harder
> on them. At least, that's what I experience when reading/listening to a
> foreign
> language I don't master pretty well, so I assume other people do.
> 
> If we are serious to opening up to the world, and AFAIK we are, it could be
> a good idea to straighten up these bolts, simply so as to allow other people
> to understand more easily or faster, and perhaps post in. Chiding someone
> whose
> english is not the native language for poor wording would be ridiculous and
> inappropriate. Thank goodness, it hasn't happened.
> 
> Hey, I never said I wasn't making mistakes myself!! Even without the typos.
> I'm not a good typist, and have ranted against too verbose constructs quite
> a few times.
> 
> CChris

Hi

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht
oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist
and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you
can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not
raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

http://dan.hersam.com/2005/01/27/reading-jumbled-letters/

So now I want a version of eu that isn't so pedantic about spelling too, ie

fro i = 1 ot 10 do
    piftrn("%d",{i})
ned ofr

and it would still work!

After all the teachers at my kids school don't seem to care how the chidren
spell nowadays - why should computers! And if I want to start a sentence this
way, why not.? And I likes' to dot additional apostrophe's anywhere too.

smile

Chris

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6. Re: [OT] it's vs its

I don't know what ever prompted you to make that observation here.  I noticed
a few examples of people using the wrong 'there' in this forum and I didn't hear
a peep out of you then.

Shawn Pringle

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