1. Linux Versions

Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Hmmmmm, sounds like a bit more MS propaganda to fend off Linux.
>

Either that or he just doesn't know anything, like alot of the best
buy/compusa/circuit city sales people.
 
> So which version of Linux are you using?  I've been thinking about
> migrating to Ubuntu/Kubuntu.

I use Debian on servers and ArchLinux on my own desktop. ArchLinux to me is
simple, up to date, fast, reliable and easy to add my own packages or fix
packages when I want to do something strange. http://archlinux.org

Ubuntu is nice also. Choosing between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is a hard choice. Do
you want Gnome or KDE? IMHO KDE is better, but for it to be better, you really
need to lock into the KDE apps. For me, living in dual computer world (Windows
and Linux), I cannot lock into KDE because they are not cross platform. So, I
stick w/a simple gnome install. When I get tired of it not really managing
windows for me like a window manager should, I install Ion or Awesome as the
window manager and live life there for a while until I realize  sometimes things
would just be easier if I could move the window with my mouse smile

--
Jeremy Cowgar
http://jeremy.cowgar.com

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2. Re: Linux Versions

Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
 
>   sometimes things would just be easier if I could move
> the window with my mouse smile

If I understand you correctly, on Ubuntu (and probably other distros) you can
move a window by pressing ALT and then using the left mouse button.

(This little trick was useful to me when I had a dialog with the font too large
and the OK button was off-screen.)

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3. Re: Linux Versions

I'm not using any at the moment, but my favorites are Xubuntu (I love Xfce under
/any/ distro) and Knoppix (mainly as a rescue disk).

--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple
system that works.
--John Gall's 15th law of Systemantics.

"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare

j.

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4. Re: Linux Versions

Jerry Story wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
>  
> >   sometimes things would just be easier if I could move
> > the window with my mouse smile
> 
> If I understand you correctly, on Ubuntu (and probably other distros) you can
> move a window by pressing ALT and then using the left mouse button.
> 
> (This little trick was useful to me when I had a dialog with the font too
> large
> and the OK button was off-screen.)


In Window tiled window managers such at the mentioned ones, there are no title
bars. All windows will share a common title bar. There is no wasted space on your
screen either. Here is a typical screen shot:

http://awesome.naquadah.org/screenshots/gigamo.png

I use the same applications 99.9% of the time: Editor, Email, IRC/IM (I work in
a distributed company and IM is crucial tool for us), Web and a few console
windows. When I run Awesome, I turn my computer on, login and all applications
are launched, placed in the appropriate place by Awesome, sized, etc... I never
need to do a thing. They are always setup exactly how I want them.

Most "window managers" do not manage windows. They simply present a title bar
and borders which allow you to manage the windows. Not so with Awesome or Ion.
They truly manage the window for you.

What I was speaking about sometimes it would be nice to move the window around
is that. Say you run Gimp (a paint program w/many windows to control things).
Programs like that normally do not work well in tiled window managers.

For more information on tiled window managers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager

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Jeremy Cowgar
http://jeremy.cowgar.com

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5. Re: Linux Versions

Heh. Another window manager I liked back in the day was Amiwm.
http://xwinman.org/screenshots/amiwm-matt.gif

Man, I really miss my Amiga sometimes...

--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple
system that works.
--John Gall's 15th law of Systemantics.

"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare

j.

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6. Re: Linux Versions

Jason Gade wrote:
> 
> Heh. Another window manager I liked back in the day was Amiwm.
> <a
> href="http://xwinman.org/screenshots/amiwm-matt.gif">http://xwinman.org/screenshots/amiwm-matt.gif</a>
> 
> Man, I really miss my Amiga sometimes...

Have you heard of AROS?

  http://aros.sourceforge.net/

"
The AROS Research Operating System is a lightweight, efficient and flexible
desktop operating system, designed to help you make the most of your computer.
It's an independent, portable and free project, aiming at being compatible with
AmigaOS 3.1 at the API level (like Wine, unlike UAE), while improving on it in
many areas. The source code is available under an open source license, which
allows anyone to freely improve upon it.
"

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
Skype name: derek.j.parnell

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7. Re: Linux Versions

Derek Parnell wrote:
> 
> Jason Gade wrote:
> > 
> > Heh. Another window manager I liked back in the day was Amiwm.
> > <a
> > href="http://xwinman.org/screenshots/amiwm-matt.gif">http://xwinman.org/screenshots/amiwm-matt.gif</a>
> > 
> > Man, I really miss my Amiga sometimes...
> 
> Have you heard of AROS?
> 
>   <a href="http://aros.sourceforge.net/">http://aros.sourceforge.net/</a>
> 
> "
> The AROS Research Operating System is a lightweight, efficient and flexible
> desktop operating system, designed to help you make the most of your computer.
> It's an independent, portable and free project, aiming at being compatible
> with
> AmigaOS 3.1 at the API level (like Wine, unlike UAE), while improving on it
> in many areas. The source code is available under an open source license,
> which
> allows anyone to freely improve upon it.
> "
> 
> -- 
> Derek Parnell
> Melbourne, Australia
> Skype name: derek.j.parnell

Yup, heard about it years ago, but I haven't tried it out yet.

I first heard about it on OSNews.
http://www.osnews.com/

Hmm. Apparently I haven't been there in awhile, the site is totally different.

--
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple
system that works.
--John Gall's 15th law of Systemantics.

"Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming."
--C.A.R. Hoare

j.

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