1. IDE version .9L BUG Report
Judith, would you rather have these privately? Let me know!
I'm working with Win98, at 1024x768...
- Creating a any button, either
command or radio or checkbox,
even a text label, the button
text is located BELOW the button
itself.
- When I click inside the window
and drag, what in the world gets
dragged? I don't understand what's
happening.
- What are the scroll bars for in
the design window?
This version is unusable to me
because of the first item. Probably
just one little line of code causing
the text label to be displayed way
below the item it's supposed to label...
-ck
2. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:04:48 -0500, Ck Lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>Judith, would you rather have these privately? Let me know!
Doesn't matter to me. If you find a bug and other people do too and you all
send me private mail then nobody else knows the bug is found and I might
get even more bug reports. If you repond on the list, then everyone finds
out and I don't have to send private mail back. It doesn't embarrass me for
others to know I make errors. If the DOS folks get upset, then by all means
send it to me privately.
>
>I'm working with Win98, at 1024x768...
>
>- Creating a any button, either
> command or radio or checkbox,
> even a text label, the button
> text is located BELOW the button
> itself.
First of all, if you are using win32lib.ew version 54 that is your problem.
I outlined at the top of IDE.exw what to change for that. I haven't gotten
around to converting to version 54 yet.
But if you are not using version 54, I am temporarily at a loss because the
text is in all in my controls at 800X600.
Let me know for sure.
>
>- When I click inside the window
> and drag, what in the world gets
> dragged? I don't understand what's
> happening.
Normally you would click on a control to move it, enlarge it, etc. But if
you clicked in the window and not in a control and was able to slide it
around, then that is a fix I just submitted to my home page. If it is
something else, explain again, please.
>
>- What are the scroll bars for in
> the design window?
You use the Propeties Sheet to enlarge the Window larger than 500X400.
The Design Window is not that large. You then have 1) the scrollbars to move
around in your window or 2) the right button to pick 'show window full size'
and then move around in it. I thought from the VB pics sent to me that that
was what VB did. Am I wrong?
>
>This version is unusable to me
>because of the first item. Probably
>just one little line of code causing
>the text label to be displayed way
>below the item it's supposed to label...
>
>-ck
Thanks for checking out the new versin.
Judith
3. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Hello,
I want to say that the new version is a whole lot better
than previous post...The minor bugs Ck Lester posted
are happening on my machine also...
I am concerned that a major program I am writting
will be viewed on different machines differently.....
and will loose sells because of it.....
would anyone who has all of these, a 14", 15", 17", 21" monitors be willing
to give feed back on fonts and
system metrics while operateing in 640x480,800x600,
1024x768 etc... that can be plugged into our code
to eliminate the guess work?
Thanks Judith
Keep up the good work.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Evans" <camping at FLASH.NET>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:04:48 -0500, Ck Lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> >Judith, would you rather have these privately? Let me know!
>
>
> Doesn't matter to me. If you find a bug and other people do too and you
all
> send me private mail then nobody else knows the bug is found and I might
> get even more bug reports. If you repond on the list, then everyone finds
> out and I don't have to send private mail back. It doesn't embarrass me
for
> others to know I make errors. If the DOS folks get upset, then by all
means
> send it to me privately.
>
>
> >
> >I'm working with Win98, at 1024x768...
> >
> >- Creating a any button, either
> > command or radio or checkbox,
> > even a text label, the button
> > text is located BELOW the button
> > itself.
>
> First of all, if you are using win32lib.ew version 54 that is your
problem.
> I outlined at the top of IDE.exw what to change for that. I haven't gotten
> around to converting to version 54 yet.
>
> But if you are not using version 54, I am temporarily at a loss because
the
> text is in all in my controls at 800X600.
>
> Let me know for sure.
>
>
> >
> >- When I click inside the window
> > and drag, what in the world gets
> > dragged? I don't understand what's
> > happening.
>
> Normally you would click on a control to move it, enlarge it, etc. But if
> you clicked in the window and not in a control and was able to slide it
> around, then that is a fix I just submitted to my home page. If it is
> something else, explain again, please.
>
>
> >
> >- What are the scroll bars for in
> > the design window?
>
> You use the Propeties Sheet to enlarge the Window larger than 500X400.
> The Design Window is not that large. You then have 1) the scrollbars to
move
> around in your window or 2) the right button to pick 'show window full
size'
> and then move around in it. I thought from the VB pics sent to me that
that
> was what VB did. Am I wrong?
>
>
> >
> >This version is unusable to me
> >because of the first item. Probably
> >just one little line of code causing
> >the text label to be displayed way
> >below the item it's supposed to label...
>
>
> >
> >-ck
>
> Thanks for checking out the new versin.
>
> Judith
>
4. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
- Posted by George Henry <ghenryca at HOTMAIL.COM>
Nov 24, 2000
-
Last edited Nov 25, 2000
Hello!
I think HoTMaiL or my ISP went offline just as I was trying to send this
inquiry previously, so here goes again:
Does anyone know how to find out what sound (wav file) Windows associates
with a given situation, such as "program error"? (If you go look in Control
Panel, you can find the current answer to this question for your instance of
Windows. I want to be able to programatically find the current answer for
any instance of Windows under which my program is running.)
Also, is there an archive of this list, or an FAQ, where one can look things
up rather than asking the same questions others may have asked in the past?
TIA,
George Henry
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5. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
- Posted by Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET>
Nov 24, 2000
-
Last edited Nov 25, 2000
I'd like that info also.
Judith
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:07:12 -0500, Euman <euman at BELLSOUTH.NET> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I want to say that the new version is a whole lot better
>than previous post...The minor bugs Ck Lester posted
>are happening on my machine also...
>
>I am concerned that a major program I am writting
>will be viewed on different machines differently.....
>and will loose sells because of it.....
>
>would anyone who has all of these, a 14", 15", 17", 21" monitors be willing
>to give feed back on fonts and
>system metrics while operateing in 640x480,800x600,
>1024x768 etc... that can be plugged into our code
>to eliminate the guess work?
>
>
>Thanks Judith
>
>Keep up the good work.....
>
6. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Hi George,
> Also, is there an archive of this list, or an FAQ, where one can look
things
> up rather than asking the same questions others may have asked in the
past?
As far as I know there is no FAQ,
You can search the archives (or view them by date by following the link on
the
Euphoria web page:
http://listserv.muohio.edu/archives/euphoria.html
Ray Smith
>
> TIA,
> George Henry
>
> Computers save time the way kudzu prevents soil erosion. -- Al Castanoli
>
>
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7. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
- Posted by Bernie <xotron at PCOM.NET>
Nov 24, 2000
-
Last edited Nov 25, 2000
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 23:24:12 -0000, George Henry <ghenryca at HOTMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>Does anyone know how to find out what sound (wav file) Windows associates
>with a given situation, such as "program error"? (If you go look in Control
>Panel, you can find the current answer to this question for your instance
of
>Windows. I want to be able to programatically find the current answer for
>any instance of Windows under which my program is running.)
George:
I think that when your application is running, your program should
use it's own wave files and not be concerned about what sounds
are associated with what instance. Remember that a user maybe
running a word processor or some other program at the same time
as your application is running. Changing the system sounds changes
the sounds for all runing programs and may mess up the other
programs that are running. There are files in the archive for
playing wave files.
Bernie
8. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
My bad, Judith... I am using Win32Lib 54.5... I didn't think the labels
would be askew just 'cuz of a different version.
I'll go back down to 53... if i can!?! Where can I find that? You have a
copy for me? The entire distribution? Anybody?
Anyway, I'll do some additional testing once I've downgraded my Win32Lib and
let you know what happens.
Thanks!
ck
> First of all, if you are using win32lib.ew version 54 that is
> your problem.
> I outlined at the top of IDE.exw what to change for that.
> I haven't gotten around to converting to version 54 yet.
>
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9. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Its a big toss up which way to go with Win32Lib. A lot of people are still
using version 50. Only the last upgrade to version 54 affects mouse x and y.
Derek put out a message concerning that. However if you look at IDE.exw and
search for 'version 54' you'll find most of the changes necessary.
Sorry,
Judith
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:49:45 -0600, ck lester <cklester at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>My bad, Judith... I am using Win32Lib 54.5... I didn't think the labels
>would be askew just 'cuz of a different version.
>
>I'll go back down to 53... if i can!?! Where can I find that? You have a
>copy for me? The entire distribution? Anybody?
>
>Anyway, I'll do some additional testing once I've downgraded my Win32Lib
and
>let you know what happens.
>
>Thanks!
>ck
>
10. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Sorry everyone,
Add IDE_draw.ew to the modules that need inspection for mouse x and y.
Changes are marked there also.
THIS IS IMPORTANT. I've gotten many private e-mails telling me that STYLE is
not correct and the generated exw fails. Please read the docs about STYLE.
If anyone has a better method please pass it on.
Thanks,
Judith
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:34:55 -0500, Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET> wrote:
>Its a big toss up which way to go with Win32Lib. A lot of people are still
>using version 50. Only the last upgrade to version 54 affects mouse x and
y.
>Derek put out a message concerning that. However if you look at IDE.exw and
>search for 'version 54' you'll find most of the changes necessary.
>
>Sorry,
>
>Judith
>
>
11. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Judith,
your IDE code can tell what version of Win32lib is is being used. There is a
global constant called Win32LibVersion. It is a sequence of three integers
Major-Minor-Patch numbers.
You could examine these and adjust the "constants" as appropriate.
eg.
pY = cY + iff(Win32LibVersion[1] >= 54,70, 70 + 20 + 20)
Also, please tell me if something should be changed or added to the library
that would help your IDE code. The clipboard routines for example, I'm
putting into the library.
------
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Evans" <camping at FLASH.NET>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
> Sorry everyone,
>
> Add IDE_draw.ew to the modules that need inspection for mouse x and y.
> Changes are marked there also.
>
> THIS IS IMPORTANT. I've gotten many private e-mails telling me that STYLE
is
> not correct and the generated exw fails. Please read the docs about STYLE.
> If anyone has a better method please pass it on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Judith
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:34:55 -0500, Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET>
wrote:
>
> >Its a big toss up which way to go with Win32Lib. A lot of people are
still
> >using version 50. Only the last upgrade to version 54 affects mouse x and
> y.
> >Derek put out a message concerning that. However if you look at IDE.exw
and
> >search for 'version 54' you'll find most of the changes necessary.
> >
> >Sorry,
> >
> >Judith
> >
> >
12. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Thanks, Derek,
I saw earlier that you have added 'version' but here is the delima I have.
Assume someone has different versions of Win32lib in folders with the
programs that use that version. I do that. Suppose they save the prj and exw
in one of those folders. If the version is different than the IDE uses, the
exw could fail. I know I can't protect everybody, but I try.
Should I worry about this?
The other problem is style. I noticed in version 54.5 we can use it
different ways depending upon what you want to happen by adding the {}. I
REALLY, REALLY like that approach but it means I can't predetermine in the
IDE. Got any idea about that?
I think we are getting down to the 'sticky' stuff now and I'm going to need
lots of suggestions about how to approach different requests. I'm thinking
of adding an area on my home page of requested items with some sort of
status beside it and also indicate the ones that I need help on.
Thanks,
Judith
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:07:12 +1100, Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
wrote:
>Judith,
>your IDE code can tell what version of Win32lib is is being used. There is
a
>global constant called Win32LibVersion. It is a sequence of three integers
>Major-Minor-Patch numbers.
>You could examine these and adjust the "constants" as appropriate.
>
>eg.
> pY = cY + iff(Win32LibVersion[1] >= 54,70, 70 + 20 + 20)
>
>
>Also, please tell me if something should be changed or added to the library
>that would help your IDE code. The clipboard routines for example, I'm
>putting into the library.
>
>------
>Derek Parnell
>Melbourne, Australia
>(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
>
13. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
I was asleep at the wheel this morning when I read you post. Of course
'version' will help with the IDE package since the main problem is what
version of win32lib the IDE is running with. I'll start that change right
away.
The potential problem with Style still holds though. But maybe it won't be a
problem as people get used to looking at style on a couple of controls --
RichEdit, UpDown, ListView and TreeView.
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:18:32 -0500, Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET> wrote:
>Thanks, Derek,
>
>I saw earlier that you have added 'version' but here is the delima I have.
>Assume someone has different versions of Win32lib in folders with the
>programs that use that version. I do that. Suppose they save the prj and
exw
>in one of those folders. If the version is different than the IDE uses, the
>exw could fail. I know I can't protect everybody, but I try.
>
>Should I worry about this?
>
>The other problem is style. I noticed in version 54.5 we can use it
>different ways depending upon what you want to happen by adding the {}. I
>REALLY, REALLY like that approach but it means I can't predetermine in the
>IDE. Got any idea about that?
>
>I think we are getting down to the 'sticky' stuff now and I'm going to need
>lots of suggestions about how to approach different requests. I'm thinking
>of adding an area on my home page of requested items with some sort of
>status beside it and also indicate the ones that I need help on.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Judith
>
>
>On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:07:12 +1100, Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
>wrote:
>
>>Judith,
>>your IDE code can tell what version of Win32lib is is being used. There is
>a
>>global constant called Win32LibVersion. It is a sequence of three integers
>>Major-Minor-Patch numbers.
>>You could examine these and adjust the "constants" as appropriate.
>>
>>eg.
>> pY = cY + iff(Win32LibVersion[1] >= 54,70, 70 + 20 + 20)
>>
>>
>>Also, please tell me if something should be changed or added to the
library
>>that would help your IDE code. The clipboard routines for example, I'm
>>putting into the library.
>>
>>------
>>Derek Parnell
>>Melbourne, Australia
>>(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
>>
14. Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
Well this might work well for future version testing but Win32LibVersion is
not in versions prior to 54. I can't expect anybody to modify their possible
stamped version of win32lib just to accommodate me.
BTW any progress on finding out why RichEdit using setFont changes the font
of what is behind the exw screen?
Judith
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:07:12 +1100, Derek Parnell <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
wrote:
>Judith,
>your IDE code can tell what version of Win32lib is is being used. There is
a
>global constant called Win32LibVersion. It is a sequence of three integers
>Major-Minor-Patch numbers.
>You could examine these and adjust the "constants" as appropriate.
>
>eg.
> pY = cY + iff(Win32LibVersion[1] >= 54,70, 70 + 20 + 20)
>
>
>Also, please tell me if something should be changed or added to the library
>that would help your IDE code. The clipboard routines for example, I'm
>putting into the library.
>
>------
>Derek Parnell
>Melbourne, Australia
>(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Judith Evans" <camping at FLASH.NET>
>To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
>Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 11:50 PM
>Subject: Re: IDE version .9L BUG Report
>
>
>> Sorry everyone,
>>
>> Add IDE_draw.ew to the modules that need inspection for mouse x and y.
>> Changes are marked there also.
>>
>> THIS IS IMPORTANT. I've gotten many private e-mails telling me that STYLE
>is
>> not correct and the generated exw fails. Please read the docs about
STYLE.
>> If anyone has a better method please pass it on.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Judith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:34:55 -0500, Judith Evans <camping at FLASH.NET>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Its a big toss up which way to go with Win32Lib. A lot of people are
>still
>> >using version 50. Only the last upgrade to version 54 affects mouse x
and
>> y.
>> >Derek put out a message concerning that. However if you look at IDE.exw
>and
>> >search for 'version 54' you'll find most of the changes necessary.
>> >
>> >Sorry,
>> >
>> >Judith
>> >
>> >
