1. Bug testers needed

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It's been a while since I've written, I've been working on "PROJECT =
FIND". But, seriously, I'm almost done, but I need a couple (2-3) people =
to test it for bugs. At the moment it's ugly, the layout is illogical =
and it just looks bad. But, this will all change. As t is I want it =
tested for bugs first.=20
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I've done it myself, so I'm not just being lazy. I'd like it tested by a =
couple people in case there is something I've missed. If you can help, =
please send my your e-mail address. I don't want to send it to the =
mailing group.......yet......it's a surprise!

Like I say it's messy.......very messy....
Oh well, C'est la vie.

--------Thanks
------Thomas
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's been a while since I've written, =
I've been=20
working on "PROJECT FIND". But, seriously, I'm almost done, but I need a =
couple=20
(2-3) people to test it for bugs. At the moment it's ugly, the layout is =

illogical and it just looks bad. But, this will all change.&nbsp;As t is =
I want=20
it tested for bugs first. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've done it myself, so I'm not just =
being lazy.=20
I'd like it tested by a couple people in case there is something I've =
missed. If=20
you can help, please send my your e-mail address. I don't want to send =
it to the=20
mailing group.......yet......it's a surprise!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Like I say it's messy.......very=20
messy....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well, C'est la vie.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--------Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>------Thomas</FONT></DIV>
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2. Re: Bug testers needed

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Thomas, this is a good move in the right direction. The most effective way
of getting bugs out of documents (such as source code), is to have other
people review it. Testing is not the best way to find or remove bugs - it is
a last resort only. If you are serious about producing quality code then
please clean it up first. This will be very useful for yourself and you'll
probably find many bugs before giving it to others. A messy program to
review is just a waste of a lot people's time. In my organisation,
everything to be reviewed must first pass "entry-criteria". This means that
it must, at a casual look by a review leader, meet coding and formatting
standards, be spell-checked, and accompanied by source documents. In the
case of program code, this is a specifications document at a minimum.

Thomas, do you have it written down what your program is trying to achieve?
If you don't, how can anybody know if its working or not? It easy enough to
guess that bugs that crash the program are not meant to be there, but the
bugs that cause other behaviour are often ambiguous. I strongly suggest that
you do these two things before getting other people to spend time looking at
your work.

a) Write down in simple English, everything that the application is trying
to achieve -not how it is achieving these things - but what its meant to
behave like in all circumstances.

b) Make is as tidy and readable as you know how to.

After these have been done, I'd be happy to review your code.
-----
cheers,
Derek Parnell
derekp at solace.com.au
Solace Limited ( http://www.solace.com.au )
Melbourne, Australia
+61 3 9291 7557

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3. Re: Bug testers needed

I'll be glad to help  ya. ;)

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4. Re: Bug testers needed

If you've not got enough people yet, I'm willing to try.

get me either here at work or netcat2002 at yahoo.co.uk

Sid

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5. Re: Bug testers needed

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Okay, I've put in a bunch of commentary on what the program is trying to do.
Thanks for checking it out.

--Thomas

PS. There seems to be a problem with some words that, when they are
complete, the program doesn't recognize that they are complete.

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6. Re: Bug testers needed

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Okay, I've put in a bunch of commentary on what the program is trying to do.
Thanks for checking it out.

--Thomas

PS. There seems to be a problem with some words that, when they are
complete, the program doesn't recognize that they are complete.

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