1. Win32Lib Version 0.54 Released

The latest version of win32lib has been released to the SourceForge site.

There are three files in this release:
w32054.zip (262KB)    --- This contains all the source files, samples and
miscellaneous files. The source files for the library have had comments etc
removed to make them smaller.

w32054dbg.zip (152KB) --- This contains the library source fully commented
and formatted.

w32054doc.zip (106KB) --- This contains the documentation files in HTML
format.

You can find these files (along with earlier releases) at

 http://download.sourceforge.net/win32libex/

As this is an experimental version and could still have significant bugs,
you are advised to unzip them into a new directory and NOT replace your
existing win32lib.

NOTE: This does not contain David Cuny's IDE application, nor any of the
tutorial files. These can be obtained from http://www.rapideuphoria.com user
contribution area.

If (when?) you find bugs in v0.54, please let me know ASAP as I will start
releasing patches to this version for every bug fixed (but no more than once
a day).

A number of the original example files have had minor modifications. A good
place to start with this release is to run wdemos.exw and try out the
examples.

good hunting,
------
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)

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2. Re: Win32Lib Version 0.54 Released

Derek,

This is major good!!  The examples are usefully upgraded in relation to new
capabilities, and the documentation is both inclusive and well organized!  A
Very Good job!  Haven't even looked at any of the routines yet, but I'm
impressed.  This is going to take some time to digest!

I do think you should have kept the original examples *simple*, so as to not
overwhelm new users, and added your *intensely interesting* improvements to
them in as *new* examples.

For instance:
In ex.03, I *love* what you did to make the buttons *always* be sized to
show the text, (though it occurs to me that that is something which maybe
should be somehow be *standard* or default when the button is created, and
whenever a font is assigned to one), but I am still struggling to figure out
how you created the buttons, AND how you made them all the same size after
measuring each one's differently sized text individually.  Way too complex
for the THIRD EXAMPLE, I think, albeit *very* interesting & potentially very
useful.

And I *really* wish you'd left the cancer sticks out of ex14 & 16.  Kids use
this, no sense promoting addiction to death/maiming substance/practice.

But overall, (& I haven't *started* to scratch the surface), a SUPERB piece
of work!  You and all who worked on it with you are to be congratulated!

Dan Moyer




----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Parnell" <dparnell at BIGPOND.NET.AU>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Win32Lib Version 0.54 Released


> The latest version of win32lib has been released to the SourceForge site.
>
> There are three files in this release:
> w32054.zip (262KB)    --- This contains all the source files, samples and
> miscellaneous files. The source files for the library have had comments
etc
> removed to make them smaller.
>
> w32054dbg.zip (152KB) --- This contains the library source fully commented
> and formatted.
>
> w32054doc.zip (106KB) --- This contains the documentation files in HTML
> format.
>
> You can find these files (along with earlier releases) at
>
>  http://download.sourceforge.net/win32libex/
>
> As this is an experimental version and could still have significant bugs,
> you are advised to unzip them into a new directory and NOT replace your
> existing win32lib.
>
> NOTE: This does not contain David Cuny's IDE application, nor any of the
> tutorial files. These can be obtained from http://www.rapideuphoria.com
user
> contribution area.
>
> If (when?) you find bugs in v0.54, please let me know ASAP as I will start
> releasing patches to this version for every bug fixed (but no more than
once
> a day).
>
> A number of the original example files have had minor modifications. A
good
> place to start with this release is to run wdemos.exw and try out the
> examples.
>
> good hunting,
> ------
> Derek Parnell
> Melbourne, Australia
> (Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)

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3. Re: Win32Lib Version 0.54 Released

Hi Dan,


>This is major good!!  The examples are usefully upgraded in relation to new
>capabilities, and the documentation is both inclusive and well
>organized!  A
>Very Good job!  Haven't even looked at any of the routines yet, but I'm
>impressed.  This is going to take some time to digest!

Thanks Dan and all the other helpers.

>I do think you should have kept the original examples *simple*, so
>as to not
>overwhelm new users, and added your *intensely interesting* improvements to
>them in as *new* examples.

You're right. I tended to grab an example and do a quick test of some new
feature, and sometimes I forgot to remove the test code. Somebody should
rework the examples to make more graduated I suppose (hint, hint).

>For instance:
>In ex.03, I *love* what you did to make the buttons *always* be sized to
>show the text, (though it occurs to me that that is something which maybe
>should be somehow be *standard* or default when the button is created, and
>whenever a font is assigned to one)

I'm thinking using the "Default" keyword in the width/height parameters to
automatically calculate an appropriate dimensions for a control based on the
control type and the Label text supplied. Maybe next time.

>, but I am still struggling to figure out how you created the buttons,
>AND how you made them all the same size after
>measuring each one's differently sized text individually.  Way too complex
>for the THIRD EXAMPLE, I think, albeit *very* interesting &
>potentially very
>useful.

I hope its useful. I added this stuff only yesterday to prove I'd fixed a
bug, and didn't really mean to leave the baggage in the example.

>And I *really* wish you'd left the cancer sticks out of ex14 & 16.
> Kids use
>this, no sense promoting addiction to death/maiming substance/practice.

I just grabbed a random sample of bitmaps supplied by Microsoft. The
examples just use whatever bitmaps happen to be in the directory so you
could always just delete the inappropriate ones.

>But overall, (& I haven't *started* to scratch the surface), a SUPERB piece
>of work!  You and all who worked on it with you are to be congratulated!

And this is not even V1.00 yet!

-----
cheers,
Derek Parnell

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4. Re: Win32Lib Version 0.54 Released

Derek,

Well, I *sorta* took your hint about making the Win32Lib examples more
"graduated" (in difficulty), hope my "method" is not insulting:  since I had
a new version of "Wdemos" sitting around, I just added a new tab item to it,
re-named all your elaborated versions of the examples, put the re-named
versions into the *new* tab item, and copied all the *original* (simpler)
examples back so they'd work in the "numbered" tab item, like normal.

I've sent that new Wdemos to you separately, with a new name, "RunThis".
Its basic improvement is that it now does an "auto search" for Wolf and Ad's
Win32Lib TUTORIAL, gives the user a choice for which (if there's more than
one) they wish to use, and saves that choice in a .dat file so they don't
have to do that search every time, and allows re-autosearch if desired, as
well as allowing manual search for it.

Dan

----- Original Message -----


> Hi Dan,
> <snip>
>
> >I do think you should have kept the original examples *simple*, so
> >as to not
> >overwhelm new users, and added your *intensely interesting* improvements
to
> >them in as *new* examples.
>
> You're right. I tended to grab an example and do a quick test of some new
> feature, and sometimes I forgot to remove the test code. Somebody should
> rework the examples to make more graduated I suppose (hint, hint).
>
> -----
> cheers,
> Derek Parnell

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