1. Linux on a Wintel box

I may actually have gotten this info from someone here, but just
in case...

If you do your Euphoria development primarily in DOS, but without
dipping into the OS-specific stuff, there's a reasonable way (if
you have enough disk space) to run Linux, and therefore
Euphoria/Linux, on your DOS/Win machine, so that you can test
your code under Linux as well as DOS.

DragonLinux is a Linux implementation that uses UMSDOS to sit 'on
top of' your DOS/Windows file system - boot the DragonLinux
kernal in DOS mode on your machine, and you're all set.

DragonLinux (currently at v.0.8) can be obtained via the web at
http://www.dragonlinux.nu - it's about 44MB to download, and
installs to about 100MB - so you'll need about 250MB to play with
on your system to get it up and running.

Side note to Robert: Be is about to come out with a version of
BeOS that will run as a 'virtual system' on a DOS/Win box; I
don't recall how much disk space it will require.  Could a
version of Euphoria be placed on the 'to do eventually' list?
--
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin at cyburban.com

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2. Re: Linux on a Wintel box

There is a distribution available specifically for those who just want to
run linux for test purposes, or dont feel up to repartitioning their hard
drives:
    WinLinux, available at www.winlinux.net installs like an ordinary
windows
    application, and sets everything neccessary up itself.

Also, Caldera Openlinux (check www.caldera.com ), although it requires
repartitioning, has a completely graphical interface, and easy end user
instructions - anyone can install it (I'm not sure how the graphical
interface runs, it may start off in windows, or it may be as simple as
booting off the cd, either way, they provide full instructions). A number of
good introductory books are built around it, my personal reccommendation
would be "Sams Teach Yuorself Linux in 24 Hours (2nd Ed).

Nick

P.S. Although winlinux sounds easier, I would reccommend OpenLinux, it will
be stabler and faster, having its own file system.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Zeitlin <jzeitlin at CYBURBAN.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 8:47 AM
Subject: Linux on a Wintel box


> I may actually have gotten this info from someone here, but just
> in case...
>
> If you do your Euphoria development primarily in DOS, but without
> dipping into the OS-specific stuff, there's a reasonable way (if
> you have enough disk space) to run Linux, and therefore
> Euphoria/Linux, on your DOS/Win machine, so that you can test
> your code under Linux as well as DOS.
>
> DragonLinux is a Linux implementation that uses UMSDOS to sit 'on
> top of' your DOS/Windows file system - boot the DragonLinux
> kernal in DOS mode on your machine, and you're all set.
>
> DragonLinux (currently at v.0.8) can be obtained via the web at
> http://www.dragonlinux.nu - it's about 44MB to download, and
> installs to about 100MB - so you'll need about 250MB to play with
> on your system to get it up and running.
>
> Side note to Robert: Be is about to come out with a version of
> BeOS that will run as a 'virtual system' on a DOS/Win box; I
> don't recall how much disk space it will require.  Could a
> version of Euphoria be placed on the 'to do eventually' list?
> --
> Jeff Zeitlin
> jzeitlin at cyburban.com
>
>

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3. Re: Linux on a Wintel box

I *highly* recommend DosLinux.  It does not require repartitioning, but runs on
it's own ext2 filesystem, as opposed to the UMSDOS filesystem many other
non-partitioning distros utilize.

To anyone who's running a version of DosLinux (now called LoopLinux,
incidentally) from before January, it may be worth your while to download the
newest release.  It allows you to resize the loop file, so you can adjust it, if
you ever need to.  You also have the option to install it to its own partition.
Additionally, you have a choice of kernels to download, instead of the mystery
(stock Slackware?) kernel included previously.

A word of warning to new users: Read all the documentation CAREFULLY.  It is not
a pretty distribution to set up, but the directions are clear and should have
you up and running in no time.  If you have any troubles, feel free to email me
privately.

Get it here:
http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/

Regards,
Greg Phillips

The Johnson Family wrote:

> There is a distribution available specifically for those who just want to
> run linux for test purposes, or dont feel up to repartitioning their hard
> drives:
>     WinLinux, available at www.winlinux.net installs like an ordinary
> windows
>     application, and sets everything neccessary up itself.
>
> Also, Caldera Openlinux (check www.caldera.com ), although it requires
> repartitioning, has a completely graphical interface, and easy end user
> instructions - anyone can install it (I'm not sure how the graphical
> interface runs, it may start off in windows, or it may be as simple as
> booting off the cd, either way, they provide full instructions). A number of
> good introductory books are built around it, my personal reccommendation
> would be "Sams Teach Yuorself Linux in 24 Hours (2nd Ed).
>
> Nick
>
> P.S. Although winlinux sounds easier, I would reccommend OpenLinux, it will
> be stabler and faster, having its own file system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Zeitlin <jzeitlin at CYBURBAN.COM>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 8:47 AM
> Subject: Linux on a Wintel box
>
> > I may actually have gotten this info from someone here, but just
> > in case...
> >
> > If you do your Euphoria development primarily in DOS, but without
> > dipping into the OS-specific stuff, there's a reasonable way (if
> > you have enough disk space) to run Linux, and therefore
> > Euphoria/Linux, on your DOS/Win machine, so that you can test
> > your code under Linux as well as DOS.
> >
> > DragonLinux is a Linux implementation that uses UMSDOS to sit 'on
> > top of' your DOS/Windows file system - boot the DragonLinux
> > kernal in DOS mode on your machine, and you're all set.
> >
> > DragonLinux (currently at v.0.8) can be obtained via the web at
> > http://www.dragonlinux.nu - it's about 44MB to download, and
> > installs to about 100MB - so you'll need about 250MB to play with
> > on your system to get it up and running.
> >
> > Side note to Robert: Be is about to come out with a version of
> > BeOS that will run as a 'virtual system' on a DOS/Win box; I
> > don't recall how much disk space it will require.  Could a
> > version of Euphoria be placed on the 'to do eventually' list?
> > --
> > Jeff Zeitlin
> > jzeitlin at cyburban.com
> >
> >

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4. Re: Linux on a Wintel box

Greg,

   I was just wondering how the CD for Dos/LoopLinux is coming along?

Also, is it worth the effort to Update to the LoopLinux, from the old
Doslinux?

Later,

+ + +  Rev. Ferlin Scarborough  -  Centreville, Alabama  -  USA

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