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1. Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be> Sep 24, 2004
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I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
In Win4Eu, you will be able to set properties of controls with the
'set'-procedure, like this:

win = create(Window, "win", {})
set(win, "Text", "Title of the window")

Now I need to find a function-name to get the value of a property.
I'd like to use 'get', like this:

size = get(win, "Size")

But, there already is a get-function in the standard library 'get.e'.
So I need a synonym. I was thinking of 'take' or 'grab', but perhaps
you guys (and girls) can find something better?

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3. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be> Sep 24, 2004
• 517 views

cklester wrote:
> Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
> How about getW() or getw(), or some other getX(). The 'w' defines it as
> a Win32Eu function.
> 
> acc() -- access properties
> obt() -- obtain properties
> grab, fetch, ...
> 
> I would probably prefer getw() or getp() ("get property"). Easy to
> remember and type. :)

I would prefer to use full words, and not abbreviations. I want the
library to have a consistent look, without prefixes, postfixes or
abbreviations. The programmers that use Win4Eu should not have to
doubt about what he/she has to type.
Most of the interfacing with the object-system will happen via
simple verbs: create, destroy, set, ?get?, add, remove, load, save, ...

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5. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be> Sep 24, 2004
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cklester wrote:
> Otherwise, it doesn't look like there are any suitable (short*) synonyms.

With short, I don't mean 3 or 4 letters. I actually like your suggestions
'obtain' and 'fetch'. With short, I mean between 3 and 6, maybe even a bit
longer, if it's a good word.

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7. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by "Kat" <gertie at visionsix.com> Sep 24, 2004
• 522 views

On 24 Sep 2004, at 10:28, Tommy Carlier wrote:

> 
> 
> posted by: Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be>
> 
> I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
> In Win4Eu, you will be able to set properties of controls with the
> 'set'-procedure, like this:
> }}}
<eucode>
> win = create(Window, "win", {})
> set(win, "Text", "Title of the window")
> </eucode>
{{{

> Now I need to find a function-name to get the value of a property.
> I'd like to use 'get', like this:
> }}}
<eucode>
> size = get(win, "Size")
> </eucode>
{{{

> But, there already is a get-function in the standard library 'get.e'.
> So I need a synonym. I was thinking of 'take' or 'grab', but perhaps
> you guys (and girls) can find something better?

I use getf() for get-file, and getw() for get-web,  perhaps you can use getp()
for
get-properties? Or getpx(), getpy(), getpz() ?

Kat

9. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by irv mullins <irvm at ellijay.com> Sep 24, 2004
• 520 views

cklester wrote:
> 
> Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > 
> > cklester wrote:
> > > Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > > > I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
> > > I would probably prefer getw() or getp() ("get property"). Easy to
> > > remember and type. :)
> > 
> > I would prefer to use full words, and not abbreviations.
> 
> Well, for purposes of working with Win4Eu, maybe you could reassign
> Euphoria's get() to get_object() (which is what it does), and intercept
> get() for your own use...
> 
> For EuGTK, Irv uses gtkSet() and gtkGet(), which aren't too unwieldy.

I originally reassigned the built-in get() as eu_get(), then realized 
it would cause problems when people read the Euphoria docs and tried 
to use get() as written there. 

I could have used Get() and Set(), but that also has the potential to 
mislead.

That left gtkGet() and gtkSet() which at least doesn't rule out someone 
writing other _gets and _sets for their own purposes.

Irv

11. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by Marc Giao <giao at sympatico.ca> Sep 24, 2004
• 506 views

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
> In Win4Eu, you will be able to set properties of controls with the
> 'set'-procedure, like this:
> }}}
<eucode>
> win = create(Window, "win", {})
> set(win, "Text", "Title of the window")
> </eucode>
{{{

> Now I need to find a function-name to get the value of a property.
> I'd like to use 'get', like this:
> }}}
<eucode>
> size = get(win, "Size")
> </eucode>
{{{

> But, there already is a get-function in the standard library 'get.e'.
> So I need a synonym. I was thinking of 'take' or 'grab', but perhaps
> you guys (and girls) can find something better?
> 
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> href="http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier">http://users.telenet.be/tommycarlier</a>
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> 


How about:

Insert/Apply/Affix/Adjoin properties
Delete/Erase/Cancel properties
Query/Obtain properties

Marc

13. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by Tommy Carlier <tommy.carlier at telenet.be> Sep 24, 2004
• 519 views
• Last edited Sep 25, 2004

Igor Kachan wrote:
> 'Ask' or 'ask' are good and short words, on my taste.

I think 'ask' is the shortest alternative for 'get'. It's not really
a synonym, but it describes the function better than 'obtain' or
'fetch'. You ask an object for the value of one of his properties.
Produces very polite code 

constant win = create(Window, "win", {})
set(win, "Size", {300, 200})
integer width
width = ask(win, "Width")

I think it's ironic that the best English alternative was found by
a Russian guy. Thanks!

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15. Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'

• Posted by "William Heimbigner" <icxcnika at hotpop.com> Sep 24, 2004
• 534 views
• Last edited Sep 25, 2004

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Win4Eu: need synonym for 'get'


> 
> 
> posted by: Don <eunexus at yahoo.com>
> 
> > I'm looking for a (short) synonym for 'get', used as a function-name.
> > In Win4Eu, you will be able to set properties of controls with the
> > 'set'-procedure, like this:
> > }}}
<eucode>
> > win = create(Window, "win", {})
> > set(win, "Text", "Title of the window")
> > </eucode>
{{{

> > Now I need to find a function-name to get the value of a property.
> > I'd like to use 'get', like this:
> > }}}
<eucode>
> > size = get(win, "Size")
> > </eucode>
{{{

> > But, there already is a get-function in the standard library 'get.e'.
> > So I need a synonym. I was thinking of 'take' or 'grab', but perhaps
> > you guys (and girls) can find something better?
> 
> I personally like push and pull.  I think these are short enough
> and to the point... same as set / get respectively.
> 
Well since Euphoria should be simple, why don't we have push and pop?
> 
> Don Phillips - aka Graebel
>      National Instruments
>      mailto: eunexus @ yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
>