1. embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
I am interested in using euphoria as the embedded scripting language
of a webserver to be written in euphoria. We already have Peter Blue's
basic webserver posted in "recent contribs". how do you run a script
embedded in the web page without starting a new instance of the
interpreter?
Thanks
Mark
2. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
Feb 28, 2003
On 28 Feb 2003, at 22:10, mjaksen at subdimension.com wrote:
>
> I am interested in using euphoria as the embedded scripting language
> of a webserver to be written in euphoria. We already have Peter Blue's
> basic webserver posted in "recent contribs".
As far as i know, no one has been able to get a cgi script running on a linux
box but Robert. I've done it on win95.
> how do you run a script
> embedded in the web page without starting a new instance of the
> interpreter?
The bigger problem would be how the browser will run the script. You can put
anything you want in the webpage.
Kat
3. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>The bigger problem would be how the browser will run the script. You can
>put
>anything you want in the webpage.
>
>Kat
Kat,
This most likely is a dumb question but how hard would it be to actually
write an internet browser with euphoria? Wouldn't that be
one way to solve the problem?
--Jay Dube
>
>
>
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4. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
Feb 28, 2003
On 28 Feb 2003, at 18:37, dubetyrant at hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> >The bigger problem would be how the browser will run the script. You can
> >put
> >anything you want in the webpage.
> >
> >Kat
>
> Kat,
>
> This most likely is a dumb question but how hard would it be to actually
> write an internet browser with euphoria? Wouldn't that be
> one way to solve the problem?
That's a gui problem, talk to Derek. 
I'd do a http proxy instead, intercepting the Eu code before the browser got
it, but that changes the functionality, altho it allows you to use the existing
browsers. If you are asking about a plugin like java or javascript, that's
beyond me, but i am interested.
Kat
5. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
I was reading online about building a browser with java, but I don't enough
about it, I'll ask a friend of mine (java guru) about it monday.
If nothing else I think it would be a cool thing to try out or learn about.
-J.Dube
>From: gertie at visionsix.com
>Subject: Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>
>
>On 28 Feb 2003, at 18:37, dubetyrant at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> > >The bigger problem would be how the browser will run the script. You
>can
> > >put
> > >anything you want in the webpage.
> > >
> > >Kat
> >
> > Kat,
> >
> > This most likely is a dumb question but how hard would it be to actually
> > write an internet browser with euphoria? Wouldn't that be
> > one way to solve the problem?
>
>That's a gui problem, talk to Derek.
>I'd do a http proxy instead, intercepting the Eu code before the browser
>got
>it, but that changes the functionality, altho it allows you to use the
>existing
>browsers. If you are asking about a plugin like java or javascript, that's
>beyond me, but i am interested.
>
>Kat
>
>
>
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6. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
At 04:47 PM 2/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
<snip>
>As far as i know, no one has been able to get a cgi script running on a
linux
>box but Robert. I've done it on win95.
<snip>
Hello Kat,
I am happy ro report that I was able to get a Euphoria CGI script running
on a Linux box. I'm not claiming to be be a CGI expert but I guess it was
more straight forward for me because I'd written CGI "scripts" in compiled
C before. Most "CGI'ers" are Perl addicts or use some sort of M$ "point
and clunk" solution. Mind you writing CGI scripts in compiled C is at
best, "unusual", or more appropriately, "twisted so far it'll fit backwards
both ways (including sideways)".
Anyway the proof is in the code - download:
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/intphone.zip
If you don't like direct links then search the RDS archive with the:
intphone
keyword. As I recall my intention for posting this code was not the fact
that is was a great telephone contact solution (it isn't: bad code and
hardly scalable) but that it was an example of how to write Euphoria CGI
scripts on Linux.
Actually I've just looked at the documentation (dated 24th June 2002: where
does the time go?) and I quote:
"However, it's main use is to demonstrate using Euphoria as a
CGI scripting language."
There is a demon in there for sure
If anyone does actually download this code and has any questions then post
them to the list (or email me privately). I'll do my best to help and I
might even come up with some novel excuses for my
bizarre/crazy/mad/hopeless coding technique. Don't hold back folks I need
all the (positive) help I can get!
Regards,
Andy Cranston.
7. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
has anyone noticed that the word 'scripting' is spelled wrong in the subject
line?
just pointing this out! :-p
----- Original Message -----
From: <mjaksen at subdimension.com>
Subject: RE: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
Andy --
Exactly, just like PHP but without the 1.5 MB in dll's.
I'm talking about doing this from a Windows machine, obviously in Linux
the infrastructure is there and I would be using PHP/Apache or (eeew)
PERL.
I'm more interested in doing this as a sort of P2P project. EY
client/server would be prety small (I hope -- some of those include
files do get pretty big) and infinitely configurable. Peter Blue's
webserver has means to call an external language (or a second instance
of EU) or the "EGI" thing, but yeah I really want to embed the thing in
the htm like PHP. Seems cleaner. Any ideas? Also useful to "script
enable" a EU application. Also good for wrapping fish and lining
birdcages.
PS- anyone know the overhead to running a EU instance? Worth it to run
multiple servers (diff ports) in seperate processes or mulitask them
through the same exw?
PPS - wrote a "web browser" in VB some 6 years ago. This was before all
the really neat freeware browsers and I needed an anonymous multi-media
browser for a PR project. Kinda sucked but it did work and suitable
impressed the (not so smart) client. Point is: why would you want to do
this unless you wanted to add weird searching or crypto tuff -- in which
case I would set up a local proxy server to mediate between standard
browser (ob1.exe ?) and custom server. Written in EU anyone?
Thanks
Mark
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8. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>From: Greg Haberek <g.haberek at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>
>
>has anyone noticed that the word 'scripting' is spelled wrong in the
>subject line?
>just pointing this out! :-p
>
Probably because the "u" is next to the "i" on the keyboard
9. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
Andy Serpa wrote:
> gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > mjaksen at subdimension.com wrote:
> >
> > > I am interested in using euphoria as the embedded scripting
> > > language of a webserver to be written in euphoria. We already
> > > have Peter Blue's basic webserver posted in "recent contribs".
> >
> > As far as i know, no one has been able to get a cgi script running
> > on a linux box but Robert. I've done it on win95.
>
> I had no problems setting up Eu and running scripts on a Linux server.
> Couple of different ones.
While I work for the ISP that runs my cgi scripts, giving me a little more
freedom to set things up, setting up Euphoria on a server to run CGI is a
piece of cake - No changes were made to the internal config of the server to
make it run. Just upload a copy of the PD exu interpreter to your cgi-bin
and make the first line of the script:
#!/path/to/webspace/cgi-bin/exu
Make sure the permissions on both exu and your script are set so that both
are executable for everyone. Also make sure the extensions to your Euphoria
cgi scripts are understood by the server - an average server won't know
whether '.exu' is a legal cgi extension. Use '.cgi' instead - most servers
understand this.
Proof of concept can be found at:
http://www.cyreksoft.yorks.com/eu.cgi
The script reads and prints its own source.
> > > how do you run a script embedded in the web page without starting a
> > > new instance of the interpreter?
> >
> > The bigger problem would be how the browser will run the script.
> > You can put anything you want in the webpage.
>
> I'm assuming you are talking about server-side scripting like PHP? In
> that case, the browser has nothing to do with it -- it is served
> normal HTML, just dynamically generated by the script at the time of
> the request.
Most languages that can be embedded in webpages and run server-side (PHP,
Perl, Ruby etc.) have a module that is installed for use with Apache or a
DLL that is installed for use with MS IIS. Since there's no such thing as
'mod_euphoria', or 'rdseuph.dll' it would be up to Rob C. to create them.
Imagine being able to:
<b>Calculate and print the value in italic:</b>
<[eu]
integer i
i = 2
i += 2
printf(1, "<i>i = %d</i><br>\n", i)
[eu]>
<b>Done!</b>
And print something like:
Calculate and print the value in italic: i = 4
Done!
Carl
--
[ Carl R White == aka () = The Domain of Cyrek = ]
[ Cyrek the Illogical /\ www.cyreksoft.yorks.com ]
10. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
- Posted by gertie at visionsix.com
Mar 03, 2003
On 3 Mar 2003, at 11:08, Carl W. wrote:
>
> Andy Serpa wrote:
>
> > gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > mjaksen at subdimension.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am interested in using euphoria as the embedded scripting
> > > > language of a webserver to be written in euphoria. We already
> > > > have Peter Blue's basic webserver posted in "recent contribs".
> > >
> > > As far as i know, no one has been able to get a cgi script running
> > > on a linux box but Robert. I've done it on win95.
> >
> > I had no problems setting up Eu and running scripts on a Linux server.
> > Couple of different ones.
>
> While I work for the ISP that runs my cgi scripts, giving me a little more
> freedom to set things up, setting up Euphoria on a server to run CGI is a
> piece of cake
I lost a job because it wasn't set up after months of discussing it on this
listserv, and in the irc channel. It not only didn't work, there were rumors
that
shell itself crashed because we used a socks interface.
Kat
11. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>From: gertie at visionsix.com
>Subject: Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
>
>
>On 3 Mar 2003, at 11:08, Carl W. wrote:
>
> >
> > Andy Serpa wrote:
> >
> > > gertie at visionsix.com wrote:
> > > > mjaksen at subdimension.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am interested in using euphoria as the embedded scripting
> > > > > language of a webserver to be written in euphoria. We already
> > > > > have Peter Blue's basic webserver posted in "recent contribs".
> > > >
> > > > As far as i know, no one has been able to get a cgi script running
> > > > on a linux box but Robert. I've done it on win95.
> > >
> > > I had no problems setting up Eu and running scripts on a Linux server.
> > > Couple of different ones.
> >
> > While I work for the ISP that runs my cgi scripts, giving me a little
>more
> > freedom to set things up, setting up Euphoria on a server to run CGI is
>a
> > piece of cake
>
>I lost a job because it wasn't set up after months of discussing it on this
>listserv, and in the irc channel. It not only didn't work, there were
>rumors that
>shell itself crashed because we used a socks interface.
No, that was because jbrown was playing around with a stupid BASH
script.
12. Re: embedded eu scrupting in a eu program?
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:08:58 -0000, "Carl W."
<euphoria at cyreksoft.yorks.com> wrote:
>[ Cyrek the Illogical /\ www.cyreksoft.yorks.com ]
Clean lines, ecletic and select content; one cool,
and rather amusing site - I love it!
Pete
