1. RE: [OT again] Win98 installation issues

Actually, the "shelf-life" of a floppy disk is about 10 years, depending 
on environmental circumstances.  Heat, dust, moisture, magnets, and 
other contaminants can reduce the FDD shelf-life time to zero. 

Shelf life (with a lot of use) is an oxymoron...  blink

-- Brian

Greg Haberek wrote:
> that the shelf life of a floppy (with a lot of use) is about 3-4 months
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues
> 
> 
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:27 +1100, mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> >The boot floppy doesn't detect the cd drive.
> Sounds like a missing cdrom driver. Try the bootdisks from
> http://www.bootdisk.com/ which come with 4 cdrom drivers (see the
> read1st for details).
> Pete
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2. RE: [OT again] Win98 installation issues

Regarding floppy disks life span, I want to contribute my experience on
that.
I have some 100 3 1/2 floppies that I bought 6/7 years ago. I used them much
(you know, old machines...). I made daily backups with some of them, and in
3 years of use (more than 1000 uses) I had not a single error. Nowadays, I'm
using new diskettes (recognized makes: Nashua, Basf, Verbatim, Xerox, etc.),
bought at most 1 year ago, to port files from a PC to another one. From 100
units,  ~ 50 developed bad sectors after about 3 to 7 usages.
It seems that new diskettes are made with butter or something similar!
This week I had to read some of the old diskettes, after being in a shelf
for more than 5 years. Not a single error, same PC.
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Haberek <g.haberek at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues


>
> when you say blank, do you mean formatted, or unpartitioned? you may need
to partition your
> drive and then format it. I've had to do it twice on some of my older (< 4
gb) hard drives to
> get it to stick, weird... make sure you fdisk it, then reboot (power off)
THEN format the disk.
> THEN install windows. make sure you're using a fresh floppy for your boot
disk, keep in mind
> that the shelf life of a floppy (with a lot of use) is about 3-4 months
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:27 +1100, mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >The boot floppy doesn't detect the cd drive.
> Sounds like a missing cdrom driver. Try the bootdisks from
> http://www.bootdisk.com/ which come with 4 cdrom drivers (see the
> read1st for details).
> Pete
>
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3. RE: [OT again] Win98 installation issues

That's true. However, due to this problem, when I transport data from a PC
to another, I must make at least two copies of each item in different
diskettes, so reducing the probability of losing data from 10% to 1%...
Regards.
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Haberek <g.haberek at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues


>
> I think companies just dont care about the span of a floppy anymore.. very
few of us actually
> use the *store* data... I basically use them to transport data from
computer to computer.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rforno at tutopia.com>
> To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [OT again] Win98 installation issues
>
>
> Regarding floppy disks life span, I want to contribute my experience on
> that.
> I have some 100 3 1/2 floppies that I bought 6/7 years ago. I used them
much
> (you know, old machines...). I made daily backups with some of them, and
in
> 3 years of use (more than 1000 uses) I had not a single error. Nowadays,
I'm
> using new diskettes (recognized makes: Nashua, Basf, Verbatim, Xerox,
etc.),
> bought at most 1 year ago, to port files from a PC to another one. From
100
> units,  ~ 50 developed bad sectors after about 3 to 7 usages.
> It seems that new diskettes are made with butter or something similar!
> This week I had to read some of the old diskettes, after being in a shelf
> for more than 5 years. Not a single error, same PC.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Haberek <g.haberek at comcast.net>
> To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues
>
>
> > when you say blank, do you mean formatted, or unpartitioned? you may
need
> to partition your
> > drive and then format it. I've had to do it twice on some of my older (<
 4
> gb) hard drives to
> > get it to stick, weird... make sure you fdisk it, then reboot (power
off)
> THEN format the disk.
> > THEN install windows. make sure you're using a fresh floppy for your
boot
> disk, keep in mind
> > that the shelf life of a floppy (with a lot of use) is about 3-4 months
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk>
> > To: EUforum <EUforum at topica.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OT again] Win98 installation issues
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:27 +1100, mistertrik at hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >The boot floppy doesn't detect the cd drive.
> > Sounds like a missing cdrom driver. Try the bootdisks from
> > http://www.bootdisk.com/ which come with 4 cdrom drivers (see the
> > read1st for details).
> > Pete
> >
> > ==^^===============================================================
> > This email was sent to: g.haberek at comcast.net
> >
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