1. EU and FreeBSD
> FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD ... haven't tried any of these, but from what
> I've read, these BSDs arent for the beginner (with the possible exception
of
> FreeBSD, I suppose).
Honestly, the only problem I had with FreeBSD was with printing, which I
resolved last night. I'm still learning the file structure and using the
ports system and CVSup'ing. I have yet to install EUPHORIA for FreeBSD,
which I want to do RealSoonNow(tm) and I don't expect will be difficult. (Is
there an installer for EU FreeBSD like there is for Windows?)
> (She thinks that was such a
> insurmoutable problem, she should hear about the nightmares I had with my
computer a
> while back ... and that affected my Win98 a lot worse than it ever did
> Linux!)
The reason I'm going FreeBSD is because I'm SICK AND TIRED of Microslop
software. SICK SICK SICK of it. I just had a "Windows compatible" program
screw up my entire system (almost) as I installed it, such that printing and
the MS Office suite were disabled. I'm still trying to get MS Office back,
but at least I'm printing (from Windows) again, at the moment.
There's nothing I do in Windows that I need Windows for. And if I can use
OpenGL or SDL for programming graphics, I'll be set. The only reason I keep
a partition for Winblows is games...
2. Re: EU and FreeBSD
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 04:03:04PM -0600, C. K. Lester wrote:
>
> > FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD ... haven't tried any of these, but from what
> > I've read, these BSDs arent for the beginner (with the possible exception
> of
> > FreeBSD, I suppose).
>
> Honestly, the only problem I had with FreeBSD was with printing, which I
> resolved last night.
Personally, LPD under Redhat hasn't been a dream exactly either (Sometimes a
random REBOOT fixes things!!!) but its perhaps my own fault as I'm saddled with
a WinPrinter. (Which I do have a driver for under Linux, just perhaps not the
most perfect one.)
> I'm still learning the file structure and using the
> ports system and CVSup'ing. I have yet to install EUPHORIA for FreeBSD,
> which I want to do RealSoonNow(tm) and I don't expect will be difficult. (Is
> there an installer for EU FreeBSD like there is for Windows?)
*nix users tend to install programs purely via thing such as rpm -Uvh, apt-get,
or even the tried-and-(un?)true ./configure;make;make install, totally
unlike Windows, so its not suprising no ones making a GUI installer for the
*nix versions of EU.
If you did make one, you'd either need a widget lib (underlying Xlib naturally)
or use ncurses (ncurses would be easier, as EU is already linked to it by
default).
>
> > (She thinks that was such a
> > insurmoutable problem, she should hear about the nightmares I had with my
> computer a
> > while back ... and that affected my Win98 a lot worse than it ever did
> > Linux!)
>
> The reason I'm going FreeBSD is because I'm SICK AND TIRED of Microslop
> software. SICK SICK SICK of it. I just had a "Windows compatible" program
> screw up my entire system (almost) as I installed it, such that printing and
> the MS Office suite were disabled. I'm still trying to get MS Office back,
> but at least I'm printing (from Windows) again, at the moment.
Thats not unique to Windows. The only real difference is the better help and
support you'll receive for the open-source unices (not to mention that the
average UNIX user is a very smart user, and the average open-source user
is the admin of at least one UNIX machine).
>
> There's nothing I do in Windows that I need Windows for. And if I can use
> OpenGL or SDL for programming graphics, I'll be set. The only reason I keep
> a partition for Winblows is games...
OpenGL and SDL work fine for Linux (and should for FreeBSD). Not sure about
Euphorian wrappers tho.
WineX works great for Windows games ... you have to pay for a compiled binary
in an RPM, but IIRC i alreayd gave you the site to get the free source code of
WineX.
>
>
>
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