1. Py
Hi, guys,
Have you seen David's apple Py?
Don't look at me like a school of stunned mullet, go and get it!
Oh boy, won't the boss be really pissed off when he comes back from
his job hunting expedition?! He will probably regret his unfortunate
throw-away line about 'armchair language designers' for the rest of
his life...
My most sincere thanks go to Derek's noisy brigade. For greedily
wrestling that obnoxious monster away from David, for freeing him to
do something not just remotely useful again.
jiri (having a lot of fun for a change)
2. Re: Py
Hi Jiri,
----- Original Message -----
From: "jiri babor" <jbabor at PARADISE.NET.NZ>
>
> Oh boy, won't the boss be really pissed off when he comes back from
> his job hunting expedition?! He will probably regret his unfortunate
> throw-away line about 'armchair language designers' for the rest of
> his life...
I expect so too! I'm slowing working my way through creating a Eu compiler,
but Win32Lib keeps getting in the way 
> My most sincere thanks go to Derek's noisy brigade. For greedily
> wrestling that obnoxious monster away from David, for freeing him to
> do something not just remotely useful again.
I suppose I should say thanks, but I'm not too sure if I haven't just been
insulted
------
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
(Vote [1] The Cheshire Cat for Internet Mascot)
3. Re: Py
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David:
Why are you so concerned about creating py to have the same
features as euphoria.
If rob doesn't want to add features to euphoria then you can add
them to py.
Maybe the competion would force new features to be added to euphoria
and eliminate the wishlist.
Bernie
4. Re: Py
jiri babor wrote:
> Have you seen David's apple Py?
Glad you like it!
The inclusion of your name in the credits didn't influence your thinking,
did it?
> Oh boy, won't the boss be really pissed off
> when he comes back from his job hunting
> expedition?!
My preferred scenario is that Robert plays with Py and decides to
incorporate some of the ideas into Euphoria.
> My most sincere thanks go to Derek's noisy
> brigade. For greedily wrestling that obnoxious
> monster away from David, for freeing him to
> do something not just remotely useful again.
My thanks as well - you guys have been doing a great job with Win32Lib.
Although I'd use the phrase 'For letting David foist Win32Lib on them'
instead of 'For greedily wrestling...'
-- David Cuny
5. Re: Py
- Posted by jiri babor <jiri_babor at HOTMAIL.COM>
Oct 20, 2000
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Last edited Oct 21, 2000
Hi, Derek,
> > My most sincere thanks go to Derek's noisy brigade. For greedily
> > wrestling that obnoxious monster away from David, for freeing him to
> > do something not just remotely useful again.
>
>I suppose I should say thanks, but I'm not too sure if I haven't just been
>insulted
Don't worry, mate, I do not want to insult anybody. Just a bit of fun. And I
will not rest until I see a smile on Judith's face as well. You are doing a
great job, even if it is only for the misguided.
jiri
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6. Re: Py
Bernie wrote:
> Why are you so concerned about creating py to
> have the same features as euphoria.
Have you tried it? Although I've said it's a clone of Euphoria, I think
you'll find it's got a radically different feel to it. It's interesting what
a difference a few design decisions can make.
Py shares a lot of features with Euphoria because:
- Euphoria has a lot of great ideas
- I like coding in Euphoria
- Py is written in Euphoria
- I want other Euphoria coders to try it
> Maybe the competion would force new features
> to be added to euphoria and eliminate the wishlist.
You're never going to eliminate the wishlist; that's the nature of wishing.
But I think that Py gives me a chance to see just how useful a feature is,
and what sort of impact it has on a language.
I don't think really think that Py offers 'competition' to Euphoria. If it
did, I'd probably have to start up a 'Py' list, instead of talking about it
here on the Euphoria forum. I can't imagine it becoming that wildly
successful (but I'm open to pleasant suprises).
That said, I don't think 'competition' gives Robert enough incentive to
change Euphoria. On the other hand, people willing *pay* to for new features
is probably a more compelling argument.
-- David Cuny
7. Re: Py
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:56:54 -0700, Cuny, David at DSS <David.Cuny at
DSS.CA.GOV>
wrote:
>Have you tried it? Although I've said it's a clone of Euphoria, I think
>you'll find it's got a radically different feel to it. It's interesting
what
>a difference a few design decisions can make.
>
>Py shares a lot of features with Euphoria because:
>
> - Euphoria has a lot of great ideas
> - I like coding in Euphoria
> - Py is written in Euphoria
> - I want other Euphoria coders to try it
David:
I haven't had time to work with it yet but I'm looking forward to it.
I'm afraid I'm too old and narrow minded to work on more than one
project at a time. Right now I'm working on a library for Linux,
but I'll get to it.
Bernie
8. Re: Py
Irv wrote:
> Anyone who is trying Dave Cuny's Py will want to
> make a small change to the file py.e to enable
> namespacing.
Thanks for the fix. I'll try to rework the namespace this weekend; there are
a number of other changes that need to be done.
Thanks to everyone for the bug reports!
-- David Cuny
