1. Re: exw (hiding windows complexity)
At 03:30 PM 11/10/97 -0500, Ad Rienks wrote:
>Reply to Jacques Deschenes:
>
>I don't bother to repeat the words of wisdom you wrote, people interested
>should have stored them, hopefully inside their heads. But, at last,
>something less negative about Euphoria for Windows!
>Where are all these who asked for a Windows version? Robert Craig has
>picked up the ball, has spent months of programming to complete an alpha
>version, and now he throws the ball back at us! We should not be afraid of
>the ball, but handle it properly! Remember, this is only the alpha version.
>
>You unfaithfull, do you really think this is all there is? No, we are asked
>not to be afraid of Windows programming and to 'make our hands dirty'.
>I'm sure that people willing and able to do so can make something nice of
>exw, with Robert in a leading role. If Liberty Basic can do it, we can do
>it better!
>Besides, as far as I know there is (yet) no Win32 version of Liberty Basic.
>
>Of course, for easy programming complexity should be hidden as much as
>possible, without loosing the flexibility that is so inherent to Euphoria.
>Windows programming turns out to be far more complicated and complex as
>most of us expected it to be. But don't tell me that gurus that can program
>wave players, fast moving graphics and all the lot, are not able to make
>something of this project.
>What we need are people like Jacques, to grab the cow by the horns.
>
>Let us share as much knowledge as there is, just like we always did up
>untill now.
>I'm sure Robert is very busy working on a beta version, and hasn't got the
>time to reply to all your complaints. Shouldn't we be more gratefull for
>everything he's given us this far! People who don't like Windows should
>stand up now or be silent for ever, and the others who asked for Windows
>should begin studying the examples given and hopefully contribute to the
>further enhancement of this, our child.
>
>Ad_Rienks at compuserve.com
>
>
Eloquently stated, but off-target on one point:
Most of the 'negativity' I have seen (my own included) has been targeted
toward Windows programming in general, not Robert Craig's implementation
of it. As such, it was admittedly off subject and should not have been on
this list-serv (my own included, again).
Having said that, I agree whole heartedly with the rest. Robert Craig
has
done a lot of work on this thing and needs bug reports more than random
Window-smashing. Since I have no intention of fooling with Windows coding
any time soon, I should have kept my mouth shut, and will (after this post)
do exactly that.
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Craig Gilbert
cgilbert at cennet.mc.peachnet.edu
"Positing infinity, the rest is easy."
-- Roger Zelazny, in 'Creatures of Light and Darkness'
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