1. Gary Dumer & VEL?
Does anyone know what happened to Gary & VEL?
His VEL website is not on-line any more and there are never any replys to
e-mails I send him.
Anyone?
-Jeremy
2. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
Euphoria should NOT be dependant on third parties to
construct an IDE. In my mind, it's that simple.
jon
3. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
Jon Banquer <jbtech at MPINET.NET> wrote:
Subject: Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
> Euphoria should NOT be dependant on third parties to
> construct an IDE. In my mind, it's that simple.
I agree, both in reference to third persons, and to third party
software.
Developing a Windows IDE is a huge job. If Gary has to work
for a living as well as find time for Vel, that may be too much
to ask of one person.
Also,it seems better _not_ to have another layer of un-editable and
un-repairable code between us and the already un-editable
and un-repairable windows API. The usefulness of Euphoria's
error reporting is compromised, and there's no way anyone can
contribute add-ons, bug fixes or improvements.
Maybe Rob could hire Dave to bring the Win32lib IDE to a
point where the Eu/Win package on CD would be worth $99.95.
Something comparable to Delphi, before they added all that
buggy database connectivity, perhaps.
Regards,
Irv
4. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
Jon Banquer wrote:
> Euphoria should NOT be dependant on third
> parties to construct an IDE. In my mind,
> it's that simple.
There is no standard GUI for Euphoria, and as far as I can determine, Robert
isn't interested in adding one. That means it's up to third parties to
develop interfaces to GUIs, and IDEs for those interfaces.
Irv Mullins wrote:
> Developing a Windows IDE is a huge job. If Gary
> has to work for a living as well as find time for
> Vel, that may be too much to ask of one person.
Although it's certainly a daunting task, Gary's done an excellent job.
> Also,it seems better _not_ to have another layer
> of un-editable and un-repairable code between us
> and the already un-editable and un-repairable windows
> API. The usefulness of Euphoria's error reporting is
> compromised, and there's no way anyone can
> contribute add-ons, bug fixes or improvements.
If this is turning into a Win32Lib vs. VEL war, I want no part of it.
> Maybe Rob could hire Dave to bring the Win32lib
> IDE to a point where the Eu/Win package on CD
> would be worth $99.95.
This isn't going to happen.
1. Win32Lib is no more 'official' than VEL, or any other Win32 library.
2. Like Gary, I work full time.
3. Money isn't a motivation for me, and won't make me work faster.
On the other hand, if people want to lend a hand with the Win32Lib IDE,
that's fine with me.
-- David Cuny
5. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
From: Cuny, David at DSS <David.Cuny at DSS.CA.GOV>
> > Also,it seems better _not_ to have another layer
> > of un-editable and un-repairable code between us
> > and the already un-editable and un-repairable windows
> > API. The usefulness of Euphoria's error reporting is
> > compromised, and there's no way anyone can
> > contribute add-ons, bug fixes or improvements.
>
> If this is turning into a Win32Lib vs. VEL war, I want no part of it.
Not at all. I'm just stating what should be obvious. I can dig thru Euphoria
code to find and modify whatever I want. Fix bugs, add features, etc., even
if the coder is no longer around. If Gary wants to release the Delphi
source,
that would be just as good. I'm sure there are people here who could fix
bugs and
add features to it. Perhaps someone could even enable the internet
connectivity everyone is talking about. I wonder if there's a way to use
components from the
VCL in Vel?
Regards,
Irv
6. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
Irv Mullins wrote:
>> If this is turning into a Win32Lib vs. VEL war,
>>I want no part of it.
>
> Not at all. I'm just stating what should be obvious...
I understand and agree.
I've read somewhere that there's Delphi is being ported Linux. Gary may have
this portability thing licked, after all.
-- David Cuny
7. Re: Gary Dumer & VEL?
From: Cuny, David at DSS <David.Cuny at DSS.CA.GOV>
>
> I've read somewhere that there's Delphi is being ported Linux. Gary may
have
> this portability thing licked, after all.
They just released VisiBroker for Java and C++ (CORBA) to run on Linux.
Chances are their C++ Builder will be here before Delphi, but
who knows? Here's a CNN news article reporting on Borland's
recent poll to judge interest in the Linux platform:
Regards,
Irv
