1. Tool bars very useful? Opinion Query...

Hello,

Recently i've been trying some tool bars in an app and i just
dont see the point, other than to maybe "make it look like other
windows applications", so big deal smile

In other words, they seem somewhat not as useful as ordinary 
bitmap or owner drawn buttons, where you can use different sizes.

All the toolbar seems to do is take up room in the window.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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2. Re: Tool bars very useful? Opinion Query...

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Recently i've been trying some tool bars in an app and i just
> dont see the point, other than to maybe "make it look like other
> windows applications", so big deal smile
> 
> In other words, they seem somewhat not as useful as ordinary 
> bitmap or owner drawn buttons, where you can use different sizes.
> 
> All the toolbar seems to do is take up room in the window.

Then don't put them in.  I like to have them usually.  If I'm using the
mouse already, they're a lot easier to use than menus.  Also, it's nice
to have some standardization between other windows applications, so you
can accomplish the same tasks in different apps the same way.

Matt Lewis

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3. Re: Tool bars very useful? Opinion Query...

Matt Lewis wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Recently i've been trying some tool bars in an app and i just
> > dont see the point, other than to maybe "make it look like other
> > windows applications", so big deal smile
> > 
> > In other words, they seem somewhat not as useful as ordinary 
> > bitmap or owner drawn buttons, where you can use different sizes.
> > 
> > All the toolbar seems to do is take up room in the window.
> 
> Then don't put them in.  I like to have them usually.  If I'm using the
> mouse already, they're a lot easier to use than menus.  Also, it's nice
> to have some standardization between other windows applications, so you
> can accomplish the same tasks in different apps the same way.
> 
> Matt Lewis
> 

Hi Matt,

Yeah i guess that makes sense...then now i have to find images to 
represent open, save, etc.  Anyone do a project with a bitmap
like that already?  Or else i have to draw them all.
I guess i could spare 16 pixels at the top of the main window.

Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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4. Re: Tool bars very useful? Opinion Query...

There's a couple places you could look. There's an XPM library in the
Archive, if you hunt around you can find some nice open/save icons (I
think they're in the 'file' folder).

For one app, I used the Print Screen key to steal the icons from
Microsoft Wordpad and converted them to XPM files. I can send them to
you or upload them to the Archive if you'd like.

~Greg

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:31:17 -0800, Al Getz <guest at rapideuphoria.com> wrote:
> 
> posted by: Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com>
> 
> Matt Lewis wrote:
> >
> > Al Getz wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Recently i've been trying some tool bars in an app and i just
> > > dont see the point, other than to maybe "make it look like other
> > > windows applications", so big deal smile
> > >
> > > In other words, they seem somewhat not as useful as ordinary
> > > bitmap or owner drawn buttons, where you can use different sizes.
> > >
> > > All the toolbar seems to do is take up room in the window.
> >
> > Then don't put them in.  I like to have them usually.  If I'm using the
> > mouse already, they're a lot easier to use than menus.  Also, it's nice
> > to have some standardization between other windows applications, so you
> > can accomplish the same tasks in different apps the same way.
> >
> > Matt Lewis
> >
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> Yeah i guess that makes sense...then now i have to find images to
> represent open, save, etc.  Anyone do a project with a bitmap
> like that already?  Or else i have to draw them all.
> I guess i could spare 16 pixels at the top of the main window.
> 
> Take care,
> Al
> 
> And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!
> 
> My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
> 
> 
> 
>

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5. Re: Tool bars very useful? Opinion Query...

Hi there greg,

Thanks for offering to send the images.  If you've got more than
the three for File:
 'new', 'open', 'save'
i'd like to see them.

I read your post a little too late, as i opened Wordpad and used those
three images as a guide as i drew my own in a paint program.
I only did the three however, so if you have more that could help.

Thanks much.

Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

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