1. Question about environment space
- Posted by Jim Roberts <jhroberts1 at JUNO.COM> Nov 26, 1998
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This question is not about EUPHORIA, instead about environment space. I sometimes exit windows via an icon which takes me to a DOS menu. Lately I have been getting the message "Out of environment space". I have tried both of the following statements in my CONFIG.SYS file and each time when I bootup I get the message "File creation error" and the bootup quits at the C: prompt. I am able to enter win and the system then boots OK to WINDOWS 95. SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 and SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024 Can someone help me with the correct CONFIG.SYS statement which will increase the environment space and something that WINDOWS 95 will accept. Thank you, Jim Roberts jhroberts1 at juno.com
2. Re: Question about environment space
- Posted by Hawke <mdeland at NWINFO.NET> Nov 26, 1998
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- Last edited Nov 27, 1998
Jim Roberts wrote: > > This question is not about EUPHORIA, instead about environment space. > > I sometimes exit windows via an icon which takes me to a DOS menu. > Lately I have been getting the message "Out of environment space". I > have tried both of the following statements in my CONFIG.SYS file and > each time when I bootup I get the message "File creation error" and the > bootup quits at the C: prompt. I am able to enter win and the system > then boots OK to WINDOWS 95. > > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 > > and > > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024 > > Can someone help me with the correct CONFIG.SYS statement which will > increase the environment space and something that WINDOWS 95 will accept. > > Thank you, > > Jim Roberts > jhroberts1 at juno.com actually, you would wish to alter the PIF!, not the config.sys... this last statement is applicable if you do not reboot into **pure** dos mode (via the 'bootmenu' accessable via F8) what you do is rightclick the shortcut to your 'dos box' pif, whereever that might be located within your 'startmenu'. be careful interpreting this, as some have set up multiple users for win95 and each of those users will have a different start menu... in short: find the *right* pif/shortcut. right click the pif, choose 'properties' now, these are settings that i have found give the best overall performance for the *largest* variety of games/programs and especially EU dos... there are several tabs under 'properties' and we will go thru them one at a time... GENERAL useless :) PROGRAM note:{path} would usually be c: or c:\windows cmdline = {path}\command.com workdir = {path}\ batfile = {empty, unless u wanna get crazy :)} shortkey = {empty, or mebbe ctrl-shift-d for dos?} run = Maximized closeexit= {depends on preference} advanced button: this has 3 check boxes, which i find having ALL UNchecked to give me the fewest headaches, but, sometimes the "prevent dos detect win" needs to be checked ON, for certain very specific programs... having prob with a prog? try flipping this if it tells you 'cannot run this program under win' icon button: goto town :) FONT availtypes = both, why not? fontsize = auto? usually the easiest MEMORY note: this is a biggie, and where you are experiencing problems conventional: total=auto protected=UN!!checked initialEnvir= your problem child! set to at least 512, or as much much as you need... expandedEMS: auto extendedXMS: auto, usesHMA=checked ON DPMI : usually auto works nicely SCREEN usage : i like full, but either is fine... initsize:default, or preference window: disptoolbar:ON restoresettings:ON perform: this is a very large biggie fastRom:usually ON, unless your vid card has excluded memory mapping areas or perhaps if you are having problems with a program... try toggling this... dynamic memory allocation: turn this OFF... it causes nothing but problems from everyone i've talked to that uses a dosbox... MISC allow scrsaver: preference, BUT, certain screensavers run when certain dos programs are running can cause *nightmares* so, i leave it OFF, and minimize or close the dosbox if i walk away... always suspend: tough one... it really depends on the dos program... some are better suspended, but music/sound (like games) gets wierd, and the contraposition to that is if you dont suspend then you can be killed while the dos box program has lost focus (like a modal window popping up a network connect lost msg) idle sensitivity: forget about it... **LOW** mouse: another that u have to play with... i have both off, sometimes fast pasting is nice, but it usually paste's really wierd into a 'maximized' dos box running edit... experiment... exclusive should only be turned on if the program (at that moment) reallllyyyy needs it... and quickedit is catches-catch-can... terminate: usually warn ON is best.... shortcutkeys: i've got them all on and rarely! need otherwise... now.... do the exact same thing to command.com IF!!! changing these properties on that shortcut doesnt seem to be 'doing anything'... if it is still seeming to behave in the same way, then find your copy of command.com, which you should only have 1 of, whose position should be the first directory of your path to give it fastest possible access... right click on that file (after ensuring its the only copy, and after ensuring that the PRIOR pif file we were discussing has {path} adjusted in the PROGRAM tab properly) and do the exact same things to that pif as u did to the shortcut pif... win95 can sometimes do this wierd daisy chain thing that many of us have experienced when running exw.exe upon a program that ONLY opens a 'console' window, as opposed to using davids win32lib and 'creating' a window... (was it jesus i think?) had a problem just like that, as did i, and duplicating the effort of setting the shortcut in the startmenu properties and setting the properties upon command.com itself helped... hope this works for you... --Hawke'
3. Re: Question about environment space
- Posted by Hawke <mdeland at NWINFO.NET> Nov 26, 1998
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- Last edited Nov 27, 1998
Hawke wrote: > > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 > > > > and > > > > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024 ps. for reference try: shell = {path}\command.com /E:1024 /P *exactly* like that, substituting {path} for c: or c:\windows, or whatever... without the /P parameter, you won't actually *ahem* save the environment setting... sorta :) (it starts a new copy of command.com with the specified settings...) this may help you overall anyway... and from your message, after rereading it really carefully, i realized you may actually be booting into *PURE* dos mode with that shortcut, and i really don't think you need to... dos boxes, with the right settings, which can pifs/shortcuts created for 'problem children' on an individual basis, very rarely give me any problems with coexistence while multitasking or show much sign of speed penalty... (example: running TrueEU or Neil programs under a dos box with the prior mentioned settings, and then rebooting into *pure* dos mode, showed frame rate differences that were truly minor... very often showing less than 1% speed loss while running email, and editing a few files and etc :) hope this helps further, sorry for double posting... --Hawke'
4. Re: Question about environment space
- Posted by Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen <nieuwen at XS4ALL.NL> Nov 27, 1998
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Hawke wrote: [lots otr tdos-box tweaks] Hawke, I *never* ever had *any* problem with the DOS-Box. Seriously, I just turned all the *bad* gizmo's on like Dynamic Allocation and Protected, and it all works fine. (I already had Protected on) So, I really don't get *how* important they other, other than in an badly configured windows. If you make sure there are no hardware conflicts, and if you use the latest vendor specific drivers for everything (including your chipset from intel) winhoos can be pretty stable. I only get a crash every month or now, when using beta versions of opengl drivers with beta support for opengl with monster games like Unreal, Sin, etc. Actively running Icq98 and changing the resolution (without rebooting) could cause a crash/reload of explorer.exe .. But the above named are the only one. I never have any other crashes, everything is stable now. Much more stable as with windows 95. Just maintain your system, get the latest service packs for microsoft office, etc. Ralf