1. Question about environment space
- Posted by Jim Roberts <jhroberts1 at JUNO.COM>
Nov 26, 1998
-
Last edited Nov 27, 1998
This question is not about EUPHORIA, instead about environment space.
I sometimes exit windows via an icon which takes me to a DOS menu.
Lately I have been getting the message "Out of environment space". I
have tried both of the following statements in my CONFIG.SYS file and
each time when I bootup I get the message "File creation error" and the
bootup quits at the C: prompt. I am able to enter win and the system
then boots OK to WINDOWS 95.
SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024
and
SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024
Can someone help me with the correct CONFIG.SYS statement which will
increase the environment space and something that WINDOWS 95 will accept.
Thank you,
Jim Roberts
jhroberts1 at juno.com
2. Re: Question about environment space
- Posted by Hawke <mdeland at NWINFO.NET>
Nov 26, 1998
-
Last edited Nov 27, 1998
Jim Roberts wrote:
>
> This question is not about EUPHORIA, instead about environment space.
>
> I sometimes exit windows via an icon which takes me to a DOS menu.
> Lately I have been getting the message "Out of environment space". I
> have tried both of the following statements in my CONFIG.SYS file and
> each time when I bootup I get the message "File creation error" and the
> bootup quits at the C: prompt. I am able to enter win and the system
> then boots OK to WINDOWS 95.
>
> SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024
>
> and
>
> SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024
>
> Can someone help me with the correct CONFIG.SYS statement which will
> increase the environment space and something that WINDOWS 95 will accept.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jim Roberts
> jhroberts1 at juno.com
actually, you would wish to alter the PIF!, not the config.sys...
this last statement is applicable if you do not reboot into
**pure** dos mode (via the 'bootmenu' accessable via F8)
what you do is rightclick the shortcut to your
'dos box' pif, whereever that might be located
within your 'startmenu'. be careful interpreting
this, as some have set up multiple users for win95
and each of those users will have a different
start menu... in short: find the *right* pif/shortcut.
right click the pif, choose 'properties'
now, these are settings that i have found give
the best overall performance for the *largest*
variety of games/programs and especially EU dos...
there are several tabs under 'properties' and we
will go thru them one at a time...
GENERAL
useless :)
PROGRAM note:{path} would usually be c: or c:\windows
cmdline = {path}\command.com
workdir = {path}\
batfile = {empty, unless u wanna get crazy :)}
shortkey = {empty, or mebbe ctrl-shift-d for dos?}
run = Maximized
closeexit= {depends on preference}
advanced button: this has 3 check boxes, which i find
having ALL UNchecked to give me the fewest headaches,
but, sometimes the "prevent dos detect win" needs to
be checked ON, for certain very specific programs...
having prob with a prog? try flipping this if it
tells you 'cannot run this program under win'
icon button: goto town :)
FONT
availtypes = both, why not?
fontsize = auto? usually the easiest
MEMORY note: this is a biggie, and where you are
experiencing problems
conventional: total=auto
protected=UN!!checked
initialEnvir= your problem child!
set to at least 512, or as much
much as you need...
expandedEMS: auto
extendedXMS: auto, usesHMA=checked ON
DPMI : usually auto works nicely
SCREEN
usage : i like full, but either is fine...
initsize:default, or preference
window: disptoolbar:ON
restoresettings:ON
perform: this is a very large biggie
fastRom:usually ON, unless your vid card
has excluded memory mapping areas
or perhaps if you are having problems
with a program... try toggling this...
dynamic memory allocation:
turn this OFF... it causes nothing but problems
from everyone i've talked to that uses a dosbox...
MISC
allow scrsaver: preference, BUT, certain screensavers run
when certain dos programs are running can cause *nightmares*
so, i leave it OFF, and minimize or close the dosbox if i walk
away...
always suspend: tough one... it really depends on the dos program...
some are better suspended, but music/sound (like games) gets
wierd, and the contraposition to that is if you dont suspend
then you can be killed while the dos box program has lost
focus (like a modal window popping up a network connect lost msg)
idle sensitivity: forget about it... **LOW**
mouse: another that u have to play with...
i have both off, sometimes fast pasting is nice, but it
usually paste's really wierd into a 'maximized' dos
box running edit... experiment... exclusive should only
be turned on if the program (at that moment) reallllyyyy
needs it... and quickedit is catches-catch-can...
terminate: usually warn ON is best....
shortcutkeys: i've got them all on and rarely! need otherwise...
now....
do the exact same thing to command.com
IF!!!
changing these properties on that shortcut doesnt
seem to be 'doing anything'...
if it is still seeming to behave in the same way,
then find your copy of command.com, which you
should only have 1 of, whose position should be
the first directory of your path to give it
fastest possible access... right click on
that file (after ensuring its the only copy, and
after ensuring that the PRIOR pif file we were
discussing has {path} adjusted in the PROGRAM
tab properly) and do the exact same things
to that pif as u did to the shortcut pif...
win95 can sometimes do this wierd daisy chain
thing that many of us have experienced when
running exw.exe upon a program that ONLY
opens a 'console' window, as opposed to
using davids win32lib and 'creating' a window...
(was it jesus i think?) had a problem just
like that, as did i, and duplicating the effort
of setting the shortcut in the startmenu properties
and setting the properties upon command.com itself
helped...
hope this works for you...
--Hawke'
3. Re: Question about environment space
- Posted by Hawke <mdeland at NWINFO.NET>
Nov 26, 1998
-
Last edited Nov 27, 1998
Hawke wrote:
> > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024
> >
> > and
> >
> > SHELL = C:\COMMAND.COM C:/ \E:1024
ps.
for reference try:
shell = {path}\command.com /E:1024 /P
*exactly* like that, substituting {path} for
c: or c:\windows, or whatever...
without the /P parameter, you won't actually
*ahem* save the environment setting... sorta :)
(it starts a new copy of command.com with the
specified settings...)
this may help you overall anyway...
and from your message, after rereading it
really carefully, i realized you may actually be
booting into *PURE* dos mode with that shortcut,
and i really don't think you need to...
dos boxes, with the right settings, which can pifs/shortcuts
created for 'problem children' on an individual basis,
very rarely give me any problems with coexistence while
multitasking or show much sign of speed penalty...
(example: running TrueEU or Neil programs under a
dos box with the prior mentioned settings, and then
rebooting into *pure* dos mode, showed frame rate
differences that were truly minor... very often
showing less than 1% speed loss while running
email, and editing a few files and etc :)
hope this helps further, sorry for double posting...
--Hawke'
4. Re: Question about environment space
Hawke wrote:
[lots otr tdos-box tweaks]
Hawke, I *never* ever had *any* problem with the DOS-Box.
Seriously, I just turned all the *bad* gizmo's on like Dynamic Allocation
and Protected, and it all works fine. (I already had Protected on)
So, I really don't get *how* important they other, other than in an badly
configured windows.
If you make sure there are no hardware conflicts, and if you use the latest
vendor specific drivers for everything (including your chipset from intel)
winhoos can be pretty stable. I only get a crash every month or now, when
using beta versions of opengl drivers with beta support for opengl with
monster games like Unreal, Sin, etc.
Actively running Icq98 and changing the resolution (without rebooting) could
cause a crash/reload of explorer.exe ..
But the above named are the only one. I never have any other crashes,
everything is stable now. Much more stable as with windows 95.
Just maintain your system, get the latest service packs for microsoft
office, etc.
Ralf
