1. CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by John E. Franklin <johnericfranklin at rock.com> Feb 01, 2006
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I can't find any documentation on CreateForm() and next_number(), though I see example programs. Anyone know?
2. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com> Feb 03, 2006
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- Last edited Feb 04, 2006
John E. Franklin wrote: > > I can't find any documentation on > CreateForm() and next_number(), though > I see example programs. > Anyone know? Hi John, these are documented in the docs that come with win32lib. Go to the DOCS folder and open index.htm and follow the links. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia Skype name: derek.j.parnell
3. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Feb 04, 2006
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Derek Parnell wrote: > Hi John, > these are documented in the docs that come with win32lib. > > Go to the DOCS folder and open index.htm and follow the links. > > -- > Derek Parnell > Melbourne, Australia > Skype name: derek.j.parnell Hello Derek, It is good to see you posting here again. I hope you have decided to rejoin the community. ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
4. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com> Feb 04, 2006
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C Bouzy wrote: > > It is good to see you posting here again. I hope you have decided to rejoin > the community. > No. John's email address wasn't working and so I was forced to use RDS. Sorry, I won't make a habit of it. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia Skype name: derek.j.parnell
5. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Brian Broker <brian_broker at yahoo.com> Feb 04, 2006
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- Last edited Feb 05, 2006
Derek Parnell wrote: > > C Bouzy wrote: > > > > > It is good to see you posting here again. I hope you have decided to rejoin > > the community. > > > > No. John's email address wasn't working and so I was forced to use RDS. Sorry, > I won't make a habit of it. > > -- > Derek Parnell > Melbourne, Australia > Skype name: derek.j.parnell Well, at least we know he lurks. I still wish he'll give up his latest revisions to Win32Lib... -- Brian
6. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Feb 04, 2006
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Brian Broker wrote: > Well, at least we know he lurks. I still wish he'll give up his latest > revisions > to Win32Lib... > > -- Brian Yes I agree. He did say he was working on the new win32lib, but I have no idea when it will be available for the general public. Derek do you mind giving us some info on the status of win32lib? ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
7. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Al Getz <Xaxo at aol.com> Feb 05, 2006
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Brian Broker wrote: > > Derek Parnell wrote: > > > > C Bouzy wrote: > > > > > > > > It is good to see you posting here again. I hope you have decided to > > > rejoin > > > the community. > > > > > > > No. John's email address wasn't working and so I was forced to use RDS. > > Sorry, > > I won't make a habit of it. > > > > -- > > Derek Parnell > > Melbourne, Australia > > Skype name: derek.j.parnell > > Well, at least we know he lurks. I still wish he'll give up his latest > revisions > to Win32Lib... > > -- Brian Hi there, Maybe Derek chooses to stay private with his library now rather than disclose all his work to the public. After all, sharing your library with everyone means they can program everything you can pretty much, with as much ease. If you're competing for real dollars out there that's not usually a good thing Microsoft, for example, is extremely careful what they disclose and what they dont. RDS has its reserves as well. With so much competition out there it just makes sense sometimes. There's also the appreciation end of it...after all the work you put in to a large library if people dont express some sort of appreciation at some point you tend to start to keep things to yourself, and a lib like that is a LOT of work with little return. Take care, Al And, good luck with your Euphoria programming! My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"
8. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com> Feb 05, 2006
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I prioritize things. My paying job is very demanding and the two main public (non-paying) projects I support have been getting very little of my available time. As the current win32lib is quite usable, there is no urgency to release a large update. I'm willing to hear people convince me that I'm wrong about the need for an update. There is also a hardware problem that means I don't have access to my latest updates for a few weeks. I've been thinking that an update based on the current code base with the few bugs fixes incorporated might be useful. Any thoughts? BTW, the other main public project is a tool for D programers called 'Build' and I've been mainly working a new release of that. I've also started a serious effort to create an alternative Euphoria interpreter. I wish to support Euphoria but I'm not willing to support RDS anymore. This is not the forum to discuss that point of view so I will not continue it here. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia Skype name: derek.j.parnell
9. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by C Bouzy <eucoder at hotmail.com> Feb 05, 2006
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Hello Al Al Getz wrote: > Maybe Derek chooses to stay private with his library now rather than > disclose all his work to the public. Win32Lib has always been open source, and although Derek has been the main person working on the lib for quite sometime, there have been countless people who have contributed to the library, so you can't say it is "his" library. > If you're competing for real dollars out there > that's not usually a good thing Win32Lib is not a "product", nor is it for sale, so there isn't really any competetion. > There's also the appreciation end of it...after all the work you > put in to a large library if people dont express some sort of > appreciation at some point you tend to start to keep things to > yourself, and a lib like that is a LOT of work with little return. > People have donated micro economy dollars and time to Win32Lib, so if that is not appreciation I do not know what is. The truth is Derek doesn't get paid to work on Win32Lib, and he can walk away from the project anytime he pleases. But I hope he continues working on the lib and continue sharing it with the rest of the community. ----If you continue to do what you have always done, you will get what you have always gotten.----
10. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Brian Broker <brian_broker at yahoo.com> Feb 05, 2006
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C Bouzy wrote: > > Hello Al > > Al Getz wrote: > > > Maybe Derek chooses to stay private with his library now rather than > > disclose all his work to the public. > > Win32Lib has always been open source, and although Derek has been the main > person working on the lib for quite sometime, there have been countless > people who have contributed to the library, so you can't say it is "his" > library. > > > If you're competing for real dollars out there > > that's not usually a good thing > Win32Lib is not a "product", nor is it for sale, so there isn't really any > competetion. > > > There's also the appreciation end of it...after all the work you > > put in to a large library if people dont express some sort of > > appreciation at some point you tend to start to keep things to > > yourself, and a lib like that is a LOT of work with little return. > > > People have donated micro economy dollars and time to Win32Lib, so if > that is not appreciation I do not know what is. > > The truth is Derek doesn't get paid to work on Win32Lib, and he can walk > away from the project anytime he pleases. But I hope he continues working > on the lib and continue sharing it with the rest of the community. > What you say is quite true. I've raised this subject before simply because I know how Derek feels yet I believe he's made many updates to the lib since the latest public release. I also have a demanding job so I can't take over control of the lib. However, there might be folks that can make use of the Win32Lib SourceForge site (http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32libex). I'm just suggesting that we start with a release containing all of the latest fixes before kicking off the next gen Win32Lib. Otherwise, we have somebody so bitter towards RDS who's happy to sit on contributions that will be pointless should we spawn from the old archive version. This request is very old... = Brian
11. Re: CreateForm() and next_number()
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com> Feb 05, 2006
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Brian Broker wrote: > I'm just suggesting that we start with a release containing all of the latest > fixes before kicking off the next gen Win32Lib. Otherwise, we have somebody > so bitter towards RDS who's happy to sit on contributions that will be > pointless > should we spawn from the old archive version. Ouch! I hope I'm not doing that ... maybe I am being too petulant ... whatever ... Ok, I'm now shamed into doing a v0.61 release ... I'll see what I can do but it might take a week or two or three. > This request is very old... and so am I (51 next week) But just think of it as waiting for a release of Euphoria. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia Skype name: derek.j.parnell