1. RE: Tough ciphers?

The first one is from a poem/song called Jabberwocky out of Lewis Carroll's
Alice in Wonderland. It uses a lot of nonsense words that Lewis Carroll made
up specially for the poem.

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From: petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk [mailto:petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk]
Subject: Tough ciphers?




Just wanted to know if anyone can solve these babies:

1)
twas brimmic and the smitho types did core and cilbme in the wabe amm
lilso were the byrycrypes and the lyle raths yutcrabe beware the
fabberwykx lo syn the faws that bite the teeth snag

2)
sbcwfk vwukpi fcrsx pfnukvsb vwzgre xzkrp zbtfv  wpgu sfgdj dperbfgp
vpifz tpasx jkpva ikobcu ogpriv

3)
cloudy berg slhvec bectr ui bect fvrakmy mgrak hvec
budnr vrgl buzcli ey bdaaeda nekydnlc geese punfuy  bett estdnlc

4)
abdzyx uydu za vywzce fbgh dbvtycf sjjx yu rbvj jkjc urbger fbg lzar
urjf ljhj

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Best I currently get on 4), after 12 minutes 10 secs  is(!):
ftsonc rnsr of dnyohp atlu stdgnha weec nr itde eveh ritlpi atl mofi
riea meue

At a guess I'd get 0 points for that, if I was entering that is.

Jackhammer & Sledge and working beautifly, enuf so to hide the guffs
Pick & Shovel are making; guess from that I need to revisit them, but
those four (ciphers) seem to be *much* harder than the norm.

Pete

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2. RE: Tough ciphers?

> 1)
> twas brimmic and the smitho types did core and cilbme in the wabe
> amm lilso were the byrycrypes and the lyle raths yutcrabe beware
> the fabberwykx lo syn the faws that bite the teeth snag 

Is this technically a cipher? Sounds like a cipher of that stupid poem 
by that guy who lived a long time ago, or whenever it was, who wrote 
about the jabberwocky.

> 2)
> sbcwfk vwukpi fcrsx pfnukvsb vwzgre xzkrp zbtfv  wpgu sfgdj dperbfgp
> vpifz tpasx jkpva ikobcu ogpriv

The problem:
  "sbcwfk vwukpi fcrsx pfnukvsb vwzgre xzkrp zbtfv  wpgu sfgdj dperbfgp 
vpifz tpasx jkpva ikobcu ogpriv"
Load dictionary: 0 seconds
White Rabbit: 1 seconds
The Solutions (by number of valid words)
Total: 1
 02: [13] "couple spread lunch alfresco spying hyena yowls  pair climb 
magnolia sadly watch beast devour viands"
Total Program Time: 73 seconds

Not that it makes any sense! :)

> 3)
> cloudy berg slhvec bectr ui bect fvrakmy mgrak hvec  
> budnr vrgl buzcli ey bdaaeda nekydnlc geese punfuy  bett estdnlc

The problem:
  "cloudy berg slhvec bectr ui bect fvrakmy mgrak hvec budnr vrgl buzcli 
ey bdaaeda nekydnlc geese punfuy  bett estdnlc"
Load dictionary: 0 seconds
White Rabbit: 1 seconds
The Solutions (by number of valid words)
Total: 2
 09: [09] "snowed tik? ?n??is tisfk wu tisf ??kr??d ??kr? ??is tweak 
?k?n tw?snu id terrier ai?deans ?ii?i ?wa?wd  tiff i?feans"
 10: [09] "snowed tik? ?n??is tislk wu tisl ??kr??d ??kr? ??is tweak 
?k?n tw?snu id terrier ai?deans ?ii?i ?wa?wd  till i?leans"
Total Program Time: 8 seconds

Looks like some further tweaking is in order! YUCK!!!

I've spent too much time on this contest already. Hey, Rob, can teams 
enter? <blink>

> 4)
> abdzyx uydu za vywzce fbgh dbvtycf sjjx yu rbvj jkjc urbger fbg lzar
> urjf ljhj
> 
> ---
> Best I currently get on 4), after 12 minutes 10 secs  is(!):
> ftsonc rnsr of dnyohp atlu stdgnha weec nr itde eveh ritlpi atl mofi
> riea meue

Mine's still working after... DOH! I don't know how long, but WAAAAY 
past 12 minutes. However, I at least have some recognizable words! ;)

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3. RE: Tough ciphers?

> > sbcwfk vwukpi fcrsx pfnukvsb vwzgre xzkrp zbtfv wpgu sfgdj
> > dperbfgp vpifz tpasx jkpva ikobcu ogpriv
> 
> Load dictionary: 0 seconds
> White Rabbit: 1 seconds
> The Solutions (by number of valid words)
> Total: 1
>  02: [13] "couple spread lunch alfresco spying hyena yowls
> pair climb magnolia sadly watch beast devour viands"
> Total Program Time: 73 seconds

After a bit of tweaking:

Load dictionary: 0 seconds
White Rabbit: 0 seconds
The Solutions (by number of valid words)
Total: 1
 02: [13] "couple spread lunch alfresco spying hyena yowls  pair climb 
magnolia sadly watch beast devour viands"
Total Program Time: 57 seconds

...from 73 to 57 seconds... not bad for me! :)

The sad thing is, this could be made to be so much faster in the hands 
of an optimization expert :( although I'm beginning to understand the 
ex.pro file :)

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