1. RE: program suggestion

Hi David,

It sounds like an interesting idea.
I can't connect to that URL ... it is redirecting me to one of those
links of shopping sites.
How big is the program?
Can you put it up on the web somewhere so I (and perhaps others?)
can have a look at it?

Thanks,

Ray


david wrote:
>   At an abandonware site called Home of the Underdogs 
> (http://www.the-underdogs.com), there is a game called Lists and Lists.  
> 
> The game is a programming tutorial disguised as a text-based
> adventure.  The programming language is a derivative of LISP.  Hopefully 
> 
> a good programmer will write a version in Euphoria.  Some people (myself 
> 
> included) learn better by doing the work, rather than 
> reading lists of definitions and terminology.  (No offense meant toward 
> any of the authors of the guides).  Any response is appreciated.  Thank 
> you for your time.
> 
> 'All nights should be so dark, all winters 
> so warm, all headlights so dazzling.'
>  - Martin Cruz Smith, Gorky Park
> 
> 
> 



Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com

new topic     » topic index » view message » categorize

2. RE: program suggestion

Hi David,

I did find the "lists of lists" game in an "IF-Archive" FTP mirror.

I actually had to get a Z machine interpreter to run it as well.

It's a really interesting idea.  I guess the main aspect of the whole
game/tutorial is the writing style of the author.
He makes the whole "adventure" fun!.  

The integrated interpreter is good ... but really I'd rather have 
the written word in one window and an interpreter in another so I 
could flip between the two.
There is no reason why this "style" of writing can't be used in a 
html (or any format) based tutorial. It would loose some of the fun
but really it's the authors writing style that makes the game.
That's the whole point of interactive fiction.

btw, there is no reason why you (or anyone) can't do the same thing 
with Euphoria ... except it would be a huge amount of work!!!
I'd rather see that effort go into a more traditional mediam at this
stage ... but that's just my opinion and it shouldn't stop anyone 
from attempting such a project.


Some links:

lists of lists game : 
ftp://ftp.ifarchive.com/if-archive/games/competition96/lists/lists.z5

A Windows interpreter:
ftp://ftp.ifarchive.com/if-archive/interpreters-infocom-zcode/frotz/WinFrotzR53.zip


Ray Smith



david wrote:
>   At an abandonware site called Home of the Underdogs 
> (http://www.the-underdogs.com), there is a game called Lists and Lists.  
> 
> The game is a programming tutorial disguised as a text-based
> adventure.  The programming language is a derivative of LISP.  Hopefully 
> 
> a good programmer will write a version in Euphoria.  Some people (myself 
> 
> included) learn better by doing the work, rather than 
> reading lists of definitions and terminology.  (No offense meant toward 
> any of the authors of the guides).  Any response is appreciated.  Thank 
> you for your time.
> 
> 'All nights should be so dark, all winters 
> so warm, all headlights so dazzling.'
>  - Martin Cruz Smith, Gorky Park
> 
> 
> 



Ray Smith
http://rays-web.com

new topic     » goto parent     » topic index » view message » categorize

3. RE: program suggestion

Hi all,

I noticed that some of you are ending up at a shopping site when you try the
underdogs address. I believe the correct address is www.the-underdogs.org

David S.

new topic     » goto parent     » topic index » view message » categorize

4. RE: program suggestion

On 30 May 2002, at 6:11, dstanger at belco.bc.ca wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I noticed that some of you are ending up at a shopping site when you try the
> underdogs address. I believe the correct address is www.the-underdogs.org

Ok, where was the programming language mentioned?

Kat

new topic     » goto parent     » topic index » view message » categorize

Search



Quick Links

User menu

Not signed in.

Misc Menu