1. Linux

C.K. writes:
> When is the Linux version of EUPHORIA coming out?

Shortly after the 2.1 official release (in less than 4 months),
RDS is likely to port Euphoria to Linux. Pete might get there
even sooner.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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2. Re: Linux

Robert Craig wrote:

>Shortly after the 2.1 official release (in less than 4 months),
>RDS is likely to port Euphoria to Linux.


Is any support for X-Windows planned?

> Pete might get there even sooner.

What's the word, Pete? And how's that Mac port coming?

-- David Cuny

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3. Re: Linux

Rob Craig writes:
>Shortly after the 2.1 official release (in less than 4 months),
>RDS is likely to port Euphoria to Linux.
David Cuny writes:
> Is any support for X-Windows planned?

That would be nice, but I'll have to do a plain vanilla
port first as a learning experience. Later I'll see what
I can add to it.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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4. Re: Linux

David Cuny writes:
>Robert Craig wrote:
>>Shortly after the 2.1 official release (in less than 4 months),
>>RDS is likely to port Euphoria to Linux.

Hey cool... ever since David retired Gnuphoria, I've missed the
competitive coding spirit of porting Euphoria to other platforms.  Glad to
hear I'll have some *real* competition sometime soon (no offense David smile
I feel like a C programmer alone in a dark corner while the
other Euphorians scurry about in the green pastures of sequences and
run-time error checking.

> Is any support for X-Windows planned?

I've got a reference on XLib programming and am starting to work through
it.  The way I see doing it would be to hardcode the X window calls
wrapped in C as builtin procedures, with a Dos32Lib interface.  Now
wouldn't that be snazzy?

>> Pete might get there even sooner.
> What's the word, Pete? And how's that Mac port coming?

Progress is slow.  I tried compiling an older version on mac and got some
neato compile errors.  No big surprise there.  I'll try out my newer
unreleased version sometime later.

> -- David Cuny

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5. Re: Linux

>I've got a reference on XLib programming and am starting to work through
>it.  The way I see doing it would be to hardcode the X window calls
>wrapped in C as builtin procedures, with a Dos32Lib interface.  Now
>wouldn't that be snazzy?

*Wow*, it would be really cool, even we could write generic apps using a
nice and standard GUI, and then have that program working on Linux, Win32,
Dos32 and who knows which platforms else ?

Pete, since you are still building an Euphoria interpreter from scratch,
could you try to keep it in such way you can easily make a DLL out of it as
well as a normal executable, that could run multiple Euphoria programs at
the same time, maybe together with a plugin wrapper DLL for IE and Netscape
?

Ralf

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6. Re: Linux

Pete wrote:

>Hey cool... ever since David retired Gnuphoria, I've missed the
>competitive coding spirit of porting Euphoria to other platforms.

I've been tempted multiple times to start up Gnuphoria again - especially
when Rob mentions anything about the internals of Euphoria.

 In fact, I pulled it out a couple of days ago and looked through it. I was
getting impatient for your Mac port, and wondered if I should start up work
again. There are a lot of ideas that I had for the interpreter that were
left uncoded.

I'd claim that my workload on Win32Lib/Dos32Lib is what keeps me from
starting up Gnuphoria again, but it's something simpler than that: I can't
find a free Mac compiler that I can use on my 68K Mac. That, and the joy of
casting, and recasting C pointers.

>I feel like a C programmer alone in a dark corner while the
>other Euphorians scurry about in the green pastures of
>sequences and run-time error checking.


I can relate. smile

>I've got a reference on XLib programming and am starting to work
>through it.  The way I see doing it would be to hardcode the X window calls
>wrapped in C as builtin procedures, with a Dos32Lib interface.  Now
>wouldn't that be snazzy?

And I just when I gave back the Reference Zero book (it documents the
low-level XLib calls)...

One of the biggest problems with XLib programming will probably be a lack of
documentation. Good books on X Windows coding are rare; good XLib books seem
to be virtually non-existant. Time to start scouring the 'Net.

On the other hand, it's clearly the most portable option - and the one that
creates the smallest executable.

Let me know when you have something to play with, and I'll get Linux
reinstalled on my computer again.

>Progress [on the Mac port] is slow.  I tried compiling an older
>version on mac and got some neato compile errors.  No big
>surprise there.  I'll try out my newer unreleased version sometime
>later.

A possible Mac port! WooHoo!

I hope it'll run on a 68000 Mac for poor people like me with archaic
machines. Then I'll have to compete with my kids for use of the Mac.

-- David Cuny

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7. Re: Linux

Robert,

Thanks a million for the port to Linux!  Congratulations are in order.  And
I can see that there are already eager hands waiting to help wring the bugs
out of it.  All of this will just make EU stronger.

Regards and kudos,
Norm Goundry [aka Bonk1000]

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8. Re: Linux

Robert will you still be using Causeway in Linux ??

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9. Re: Linux

Bernie Ryan writes:

> Robert will you still be using Causeway in Linux ??

No. Linux is a fully 32-bit operating system.
There's no need for an extender such as Causeway.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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10. Linux

Downloaded the Linux version of Euphoria with no problems, and renamed it
successfully (opened with winzip OK), but still don't have my linux machine
running.  Am assembling peices as I write :)
    I am planning a slackware install, so I will let you know how it goes on
that machine.
/root/monty

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11. Re: Linux

Hi everyone...
     Thank you for all of the help.
      There seems to be a big difference between different distributions of
Linux, as far as how the Path's are set up etc.  Yes I am running BASH, and
I am getting problems similar to what Irv wrote.
     I am thinking that this is one of those cases that the Slackware
website wrote about:
Supposedly the newest version of Slackware has libc6 instead of libc5, which
could cause it to be incompatible with older binaries.  I thought that this
might not be the case, as I am running an older version of Xwindows on it
with no problems (other than an incomplete list of graphics cards).
    I spent the whole 3 day weekend trying to get it running, and will try
using some of the exacting examples I just received, as I don't know enouph
about linux config files to do it just from a description (But thanks to
those people also)  I am garnering a broader understanding of the system
from your help.
    I will try one of the other distributions.  I do have an older copy of
Debian around here somewhere.
Monty in Oregon
PS Rob, my computer teacher from when I was in High School and I talked the
other day, and I told him about your port to Linux, and he was real
interested.  He has been kind of turning up his nose at regular Eu for a
while, because he can't see the need to learn another Language just to
teach.  But he seemed real excited about this.  His last words were ("Death
to Microsoft") ( a quote that has really nothing to to do with any of us on
this list Mr. Gates :)
    There are really quite a few Linux converts out there and the numbers
are growing.  ( Can't wait to get it running and PLAY!!!!)
Monty

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12. Re: Linux

On Tue, 06 Jul 1999, you wrote:
<snip>
His last words were ("Death to Microsoft")
>( a quote that has really nothing to to do with any of us on
> this list Mr. Gates :)

He,he... did you know that some versons of Win 98 contact Redmond
as frequently as every half hour to check for so-called "updates"?
Now, we all know that Microsoft doesn't release updates _that_ often.
So, what do you suppose Win 98 is _really_ sending to Mr. Gates?
Hmmm?

Be careful what you write :)

> There are really quite a few Linux converts out there and the numbers
> are growing.  ( Can't wait to get it running and PLAY!!!!)
> Monty

Maybe that's why Linux interests some of us - it is still possible to
"play" with it, learn stuff ,build things, improve things, customize it to
work the way _we_ want it to work.

Not to say that Mr. Bill's ideas about where we want to go today aren't
Just Right for Everyone (tm).

 _/ The opinions expressed are not my own.
_/ They are Lou's.
_/ He's on vacation this week.
_./ So he gets blamed for everything.

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13. Linux

Daniel Berstein writes:
> BTW I'm available to beta-test, co-develop or whatever,
> Euphoria on Linux (2.0.39, soon 2.2.5) and BeOS R4.
> PEU already compiles succesfully on both platforms.
> Rob, do you want to send me something? Someday?

As soon as I have something usable for Linux,
I'll release a "pre-alpha" version. That might take
a few months.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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14. Linux

I know this is a bit off topic so I apologize ahead of time, but I was
wondering does anyone know where I can download and install Linux (SuSE or
Red Hat preferred, but any X Windows version will do).  I do mean to buy it
eventually but I want to try before I buy, if you will.  Thank you ahead of
time.

Adam Weeden
WeedenSoft Technologies

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15. Re: Linux

Try www.linuxmall.com or www.lsl.com.  You can get CD's from them for dirt
cheap and you will save tons of download time.  I got SuSE, RedHat, Debian,
Slackware and 3 archive CD's for a total of $15 (shipping incl) from LSL b4
Xmas.

Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weeden <theskaman at MINDSPRING.COM>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 4:50 AM
Subject: Linux


>I know this is a bit off topic so I apologize ahead of time, but I was
>wondering does anyone know where I can download and install Linux (SuSE or
>Red Hat preferred, but any X Windows version will do).  I do mean to buy it
>eventually but I want to try before I buy, if you will.  Thank you ahead of
>time.
>
>Adam Weeden
>WeedenSoft Technologies

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16. Re: Linux

Kevin,

The price is now $17,95, not including shipping (to Europe).
Incluse it is some $45, but I still ordered it.
Now my questions: have you tried it, if so, what do you think of it?
Which flavor is the best, easiest, for a beginner like me?
Anyone else who can give me more information? Ralf, Daniel
(Others may respond too)

TIA, Ad Rienks

> Try www.linuxmall.com or www.lsl.com.  You can get CD's from them for=
 dirt
> cheap and you will save tons of download time.  I got SuSE, RedHat, D=
ebian,
> Slackware and 3 archive CD's for a total of $15 (shipping incl) from =
LSL b4
> Xmas.
> =A0
> Kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Weeden <theskaman at MINDSPRING.COM>
> To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 4:50 AM
> Subject: Linux
> =A0
> =A0
> >I know this is a bit off topic so I apologize ahead of time, but I w=
as
> >wondering does anyone know where I can download and install Linux (S=
uSE or
> >Red Hat preferred, but any X Windows version will do).  I do mean to=
 buy it
> >eventually but I want to try before I buy, if you will.  Thank you a=
head of
> >time.
> >
> >Adam Weeden
> >WeedenSoft Technologies
>



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17. Re: Linux

On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:33:37 +0200, Ad Rienks <kwibus at DOLFIJN.NL> wrote:

>Kevin,
>
>The price is now $17,95, not including shipping (to Europe).
>Incluse it is some $45, but I still ordered it.
>Now my questions: have you tried it, if so, what do you think of it?
>Which flavor is the best, easiest, for a beginner like me?
>Anyone else who can give me more information? Ralf, Daniel
>(Others may respond too)

http://www.cheapbytes.com has all sorts of Linux CD's and
books. CD's for $1.99 up. Shipping to Europe is $8.00.
I have ordered from them, and their service is excellent.

I now use my RedHat CD as a coaster for refreshing
brewed beverages. I had a lot of trouble getting things
to work properly with RedHat, things that Slackware did
without any problem.

My impression is that RedHat tried to make everything work
with a GUI, so the Windows users wouldn't be frightened away.
Unfortunately, they failed in some major areas. For anyone
who is not afraid to type stuff and use an editor, the simpler
text-mode setup of Slackware is better. Many people say the
SuSE distribution is good, also.

I have a collection of links to Linux software and info,
which I will e-mail to anyone who requests it.

Regards,
Irv Mullins

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18. Re: Linux

>From: Irv Mullins
>To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
>Subject: Re: Linux
>Date: Wednesday 7 April 1999 18:02

>My impression is that RedHat tried to make everything work
>with a GUI, so the Windows users wouldn't be frightened away.

the difference between slackware and redhat is that slackware
splits in floppy-sized blocks, and named e1,a1,a2.. (a<..> for
 applications, for example. redhat uses complete packages,
one per application, sources, even the kernel itself(*.rpm) .
It is fully modular and permits to easily install or uninstall any
binary.
The Mandrake distrib is based on RedHat and it is the easiest I
have seen to install. but I didn't have so much problems with
redhat.

Riwal Raude
rauder at thmulti.com

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19. Re: Linux

Raude Riwal wrote:

> The Mandrake distrib is based on RedHat and it is the easiest I
> have seen to install. but I didn't have so much problems with
> redhat.

is mandrake better than red hat? what are the main differences?

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20. Re: Linux

No! it's not better, just simpler. it is a pre-configured redhat distrib
packaged with kde. The install is _very_ easy and fast, and you're
ready to work. for example, there's an icon for CD-rom and floppy
 - very handy.
I would say it is good for those who don't want to bother with
configurations and installations, just begin to work as they would
with M$ win*.* . But for those who want to build their own "euphoric"
environment and do some programming I think standard redhat is
surer.
I didn't try the last mandrake, I heard that it is much more complete
than the previous one.
The debian is sayed to be the prefered one for developers... can't
say. did someone try that?
Most people around me use redhat... new monopoly?

Riwal Raude
rauder at thmulti.com
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From: Nuno Barros
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Thursday 8 April 1999 20:32

Raude Riwal wrote:

> The Mandrake distrib is based on RedHat and it is the easiest I
> have seen to install. but I didn't have so much problems with
> redhat.

is mandrake better than red hat? what are the main differences?

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21. Re: Linux

Irv Mullins wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:33:37 +0200, Ad Rienks <kwibus at DOLFIJN.NL> wrote:
>
> >Kevin,
> >
> >The price is now $17,95, not including shipping (to Europe).
> >Incluse it is some $45, but I still ordered it.
> >Now my questions: have you tried it, if so, what do you think of it?
> >Which flavor is the best, easiest, for a beginner like me?
> >Anyone else who can give me more information? Ralf, Daniel
> >(Others may respond too)
>
> http://www.cheapbytes.com has all sorts of Linux CD's and
> books. CD's for $1.99 up. Shipping to Europe is $8.00.
> I have ordered from them, and their service is excellent.
>
> I now use my RedHat CD as a coaster for refreshing
> brewed beverages. I had a lot of trouble getting things
> to work properly with RedHat, things that Slackware did
> without any problem.
>
> My impression is that RedHat tried to make everything work
> with a GUI, so the Windows users wouldn't be frightened away.
> Unfortunately, they failed in some major areas. For anyone
> who is not afraid to type stuff and use an editor, the simpler
> text-mode setup of Slackware is better. Many people say the
> SuSE distribution is good, also.
>
> I have a collection of links to Linux software and info,
> which I will e-mail to anyone who requests it.
>
> Regards,
> Irv Mullins

 Interesting. I'm now running RH5.0/Xwin w/ KDE and are having no problems.
Yes, I also believe that they're trying to do everything GUI, but when time
comes to add another user, its real useful :) (command-line useradd is
tedious)

    Tho In my case, to use the newest things, I need alot of updates, and
to date I've used somewhere around five updates, and eight reinstalls
(StarOffice5.0 glibc2 (libc6) installation kept deleting libraries and even
renamed the dyn. loader, killing the RH partition. One tip for those going
in that direction, get the 2.0.7 rpm from RHupdate site)

    And after about... two weeks, my Linux system is _finally_ stable! (I
turned gray in the process, I think. :)

So for those looking to the direction of Linux, anything but RedHat 5.0
will do. (Debian sounds nice to me. Hey, I can't whine, I got RH5 for
free!)

    Have phun, and Blessed Be. -- "LEVIATHAN"

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22. Linux

All,

        I have recently joined the world of Linux, and was
wondering if there was anyone out there that could tell me
if there is any problem with running Euphoria under dosemu?

        It seems I have seen in the past something about the
Causeway stuff in Euphoria preventing it from running under the
dosemu, if so what about PEU, is it in complete enough stages to
use for serious programming?

TIA,

Later,

+ + +  Rev. Ferlin Scarborough  -  Centreville, Alabama  -  USA

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23. Re: Linux

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:32:07 -0600, Ferlin <ferlin at SANDW.NET> wrote:

>All,
>
>        I have recently joined the world of Linux, and was
>wondering if there was anyone out there that could tell me
>if there is any problem with running Euphoria under dosemu?

Yes. It won't. The Causeway causes an error.

>        It seems I have seen in the past something about the
>Causeway stuff in Euphoria preventing it from running under the
>dosemu, if so what about PEU, is it in complete enough stages to
>use for serious programming?

With all respect to Pete, I don't think so. However, Rob promised
a Linux version of Euphoria would be available "soon"!!

Irv

Microsoft just announced that the Windows 2000 release date has
been put off until the first quarter of 1900.

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24. Linux

I posted a message last week (that I'm sure nobody read :)) about using =
Pete's Peuphoria in Linux.  Has anybody else even tried?  If I can get =
the current version to run, I'd be willing to write wrappers for the =
screen control (I think it's in termio.h in gcc, or conio.h for other C =
compilers) and whatever else I could find if there's interest. =20

Pete, do you have anything to mention about Peuphoria's progress?

Rob, is the official Linux version going to include graphics routines?

Michael J. Sabal
mjs at osa.att.ne.jp
http://home.att.ne.jp/gold/mjs/index.html

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25. Re: Linux

Date sent:              Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:44:13 +-900
From:                   Michael Sabal <mjs at OSA.ATT.NE.JP>
Subject:                Linux

> I posted a message last week (that I'm sure nobody read :)) about using Pete's
> Peuphoria in Linux.  Has anybody else even tried?  If I can get the current
> version to run, I'd be willing to write wrappers for the screen control (I think
> it's in termio.h in gcc, or conio.h for other C compilers)
and whatever else I could find if there's interest.
>
> Pete, do you have anything to mention about Peuphoria's progress?
>
> Rob, is the official Linux version going to include graphics routines?
>
> Michael J. Sabal
> mjs at osa.att.ne.jp
> http://home.att.ne.jp/gold/mjs/index.html
>

I like to hear more about this Euphora for Linux to!
I have a linux partition on my HD and am willing to do alpha testing.

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26. Re: Linux

Michael J. Sabal writes:
> Rob, is the official Linux version going to include graphics routines?

I'm not sure yet.
Ask me again in a few months.

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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27. Re: Linux

Michael Sabal wrote:
> I posted a message last week (that I'm sure nobody read :)) about using
> Pete's Peuphoria in Linux.  Has anybody else even tried?  If I can get
> the current version to run, I'd be willing to write wrappers for the
> screen control (I think it's in termio.h in gcc, or conio.h for other C
> compilers) and whatever else I could find if there's interest.
>
> Pete, do you have anything to mention about Peuphoria's progress?

not much really.  I haven't been working on PEU at all lately.  Version
.10 has some bugs that cause it to sigsegv on linux and ux-hp.  Unreleased
version .11, being written mostly from scratch, avoids the problems in
previous versions (casting pointers as ints & vice versa), and is faster
too.  I've been working on setting up a linux machine to develop and
test it further... so far I've got RedHat 5.2 squeezed onto a 200M hd and
its not usable yet.  If I can get gcc running, I'll try to get a bugfixed
version ,10 binary distributable to those of you who are interested.
Version .11 is not very far along and has no sequence support, no
function/procedure calls, few built-in functions.  I'm also planning on
using storing sequences of integers 0..255 as plain bytes, so text
sequences will save space and require little or no conversion before
getting passed to c functions.  I'm also trying to make the parser do
heavy optimization of code, such as evaluating constant expressions at
translation-time and performing dead code removal.

I've also been kicking around an idea for a Euphoria compiler, which might
use NASM (also runs on linux!) as the underlying assembler.  MASM or TASM
could also be an option, both of which can also be used for win32
compilation.

Keep bugging me and maybe I'll get something done...
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28. Linux

Wells, heres hoping the the port of Euphoria to Linux starts up again.
Why?

Just ordered 10 CD pack from Linux Sytems Labs that includes:
                    Redhat 5.2 (2)
                    Slackware 3.6 (1)
                    SuSE 5.2 (1)  -- only drawback!! Not 5.3!!
                    Debian 2.0.2 (3)
                    Sunsite archives (3)

All this for $15.95 (incl. shipping and handling)!  After much research,
I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
too.  Slackware?  Not easy to upgrade from my understanding.  Redhat
gets mixed comments.  Guess I'll find out soon.

What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?  And how IS
the linux port going?

Later,
Kevin

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29. Re: Linux

Date sent:              Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:56:47 -0600
From:                   Kevin Sieger <simkin at ZEBRA.NET>
Subject:                Linux

> I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
>

Debian is may favorite.
Also have a well organized site at: http://www.debian.org/
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30. Re: Linux

Kevin Sieger wrote:

> Wells, heres hoping the the port of Euphoria to Linux starts up again.
> Why?
>
> Just ordered 10 CD pack from Linux Sytems Labs that includes:
>                     Redhat 5.2 (2)
>                     Slackware 3.6 (1)
>                     SuSE 5.2 (1)  -- only drawback!! Not 5.3!!
>                     Debian 2.0.2 (3)
>                     Sunsite archives (3)
>
> All this for $15.95 (incl. shipping and handling)!  After much research,
> I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
> too.  Slackware?  Not easy to upgrade from my understanding.  Redhat
> gets mixed comments.  Guess I'll find out soon.
>

$15.95??? Where? That's great, Redhat 5.2 alone retails for $30-$40 here

> What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?  And how IS
> the linux port going?
>

I'm using Redhat 5.2 on one box that's collecting dust, and I used Debian
for a while on another, until the power source died :PI was going to compare
all the distributions I could get my hands on, I'm trying to build a
Beowulf...

> Later,
> Kevin



--
Greg Phillips
i.shoot at rednecks.com
http://euphoria.server101.com
--

Useless fact of the day:

In most advertisments, including newspapers, the time displayed on a watch
is 10:10.

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31. Re: Linux

On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:26:59 -0800, Greg Phillips <i.shoot at REDNECKS.COM>
wrote:

>Kevin Sieger wrote:
>
>> Wells, heres hoping the the port of Euphoria to Linux starts up again.
>> Why?
>>
>> Just ordered 10 CD pack from Linux Sytems Labs that includes:
>>                     Redhat 5.2 (2)
>>                     Slackware 3.6 (1)
>>                     SuSE 5.2 (1)  -- only drawback!! Not 5.3!!
>>                     Debian 2.0.2 (3)
>>                     Sunsite archives (3)
>>
>> All this for $15.95 (incl. shipping and handling)!  After much research,
>> I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
>> too.  Slackware?  Not easy to upgrade from my understanding.  Redhat
>> gets mixed comments.  Guess I'll find out soon.
>>
>
>$15.95??? Where? That's great, Redhat 5.2 alone retails for $30-$40 here
>
>> What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?  And how IS
>> the linux port going?
>>
I tried  RedHat and Slackware. I like Slackware best, it has
been running for about 4 months without a crash (even with me
writing buggy programs!)
Slackware was easy to get running and connected to the
internet with Netscape.
I miss Euphoria, although the Linux
CD's include C, C++, Pascal, Cobol, Perl, Python, and a bunch
of other compilers. No basic, thank goodness.;)

Irv

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32. Re: Linux

--------------B9CA7A2A415ED54C74D2F3C6

 Linux System Labs
 Linux Mall
 Cheapbytes

Try these places, they all have good deals like this.  Mind you, they sell the
$30+ official packages, the cheap deals are just the distributions and some
other stuff, no books or manuals.  They will allow you to get a linux box going
if you're poor like me <G>.

Greg Phillips wrote:

> Kevin Sieger wrote:
>
> > Wells, heres hoping the the port of Euphoria to Linux starts up again.
> > Why?
> >
> > Just ordered 10 CD pack from Linux Sytems Labs that includes:
> >                     Redhat 5.2 (2)
> >                     Slackware 3.6 (1)
> >                     SuSE 5.2 (1)  -- only drawback!! Not 5.3!!
> >                     Debian 2.0.2 (3)
> >                     Sunsite archives (3)
> >
> > All this for $15.95 (incl. shipping and handling)!  After much research,
> > I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
> > too.  Slackware?  Not easy to upgrade from my understanding.  Redhat
> > gets mixed comments.  Guess I'll find out soon.
> >
>
> $15.95??? Where? That's great, Redhat 5.2 alone retails for $30-$40 here
>
> > What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?  And how IS
> > the linux port going?
> >
>
> I'm using Redhat 5.2 on one box that's collecting dust, and I used Debian
> for a while on another, until the power source died :PI was going to compare
> all the distributions I could get my hands on, I'm trying to build a
> Beowulf...
>
> > Later,
> > Kevin
>
> --
> Greg Phillips
> i.shoot at rednecks.com
> http://euphoria.server101.com
> --
>
> Useless fact of the day:
>
> In most advertisments, including newspapers, the time displayed on a watch
> is 10:10.

--------------B9CA7A2A415ED54C74D2F3C6

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
&nbsp;<a href="www.lsl.com">Linux System Labs</a>
<br>&nbsp;<a href="www.linuxmall.com">Linux Mall</a>
<br>&nbsp;<a href="www.cheapbytes.com">Cheapbytes</a>
<p>Try these places, they all have good deals like this.&nbsp; Mind you,
they sell the $30+ official packages, the cheap deals are just the distributions
and some other stuff, no books or manuals.&nbsp; They will allow you to
get a linux box going if you're poor like me &lt;G>.
<p>Greg Phillips wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Kevin Sieger wrote:
<p>> Wells, heres hoping the the port of Euphoria to Linux starts up again.
<br>> Why?
<br>>
<br>> Just ordered 10 CD pack from Linux Sytems Labs that includes:
Redhat 5.2 (2)
Slackware 3.6 (1)
SuSE 5.2 (1)&nbsp; -- only drawback!! Not 5.3!!
Debian 2.0.2 (3)
Sunsite archives (3)
<br>>
<br>> All this for $15.95 (incl. shipping and handling)!&nbsp; After much
research,
<br>> I think I'll like Debian the most, but SuSE gets many good comments
<br>> too.&nbsp; Slackware?&nbsp; Not easy to upgrade from my
understanding.&nbsp;
Redhat
<br>> gets mixed comments.&nbsp; Guess I'll find out soon.
<br>>
<p>$15.95??? Where? That's great, Redhat 5.2 alone retails for $30-$40
here
<p>> What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?&nbsp;
And how IS
<br>> the linux port going?
<br>>
<p>I'm using Redhat 5.2 on one box that's collecting dust, and I used Debian
<br>for a while on another, until the power source died :PI was going to
compare
<br>all the distributions I could get my hands on, I'm trying to build
a
<br>Beowulf...
<p>> Later,
<br>> Kevin
<p>--
<br>Greg Phillips
<br>i.shoot at rednecks.com
<br><a href="http://euphoria.server101.com">http://euphoria.server101.com</a>
<br>--
<p>Useless fact of the day:
<p>In most advertisments, including newspapers, the time displayed on a
watch
<br>is 10:10.</blockquote>
</html>

--------------B9CA7A2A415ED54C74D2F3C6--

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33. Re: Linux

At 10:56 p.m. 15-01-99 -0600, you wrote:

First of all cheers to RDS for the new version. I haven't tested it yet, but
I assume it's bug-free and optimized-full ;)

>What is everyone else on this list using distribution wise?  And how IS
>the linux port going?

I personally have Slackware, not running now, I belive for a single station
configuration it'll do the work... client/server configurations may be more
convinient with pay-supported distirbutions like RedHat or OpenLinux.

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34. Linux

is there a way to just click on a a *.exu file and have it associated 
with exu so that it will automaticly run?  or is there a Linux equivlant 
to a *.bat file?

BTW I'm only 3 days new with Euphoria and I'm already doing things that 
would take me a week to do in BASIC.  And even then only if I was 
programming in DOS or M$ Windoze.  I can't beleive the power of Euphoria 
compared to BASIC.  Awsome!

nova

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35. Re: Linux

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, you wrote:
> is there a way to just click on a a *.exu file and have it associated 
> with exu so that it will automaticly run? 

Yes. The very FIRST line of your Euphoria prog must be:
#!./euphoria/bin/exu

and permissions should be set to read/write/execute. (Right click to 
set Properties, then Permissions - the program's icon will change 
to reflect it's new status as an executable file)

You can then type the name of the file at a prompt, or click on the 
icon, and it'll run. You don't really need .bat files for just running 
programs, since it's so easy to make the Euphoria source itself 
executable. You might want to use one if you chain several different 
programs together.

> or is there a Linux equivlant 
> to a *.bat file?

BASH is the usual "command.com" for Linux, execept that BASH is more of a 
full-fledged "interpreter" of its own. There are probably a half-dozen other
"shells" available for those who prefer different syntax: the original Bourne
shell (sh), csh, tcsh, zsh which are "C shells", ksh and pdks, the "Korn
shells", and rc, a c-like shell. With some care, you can write fairly complex
programs  with any one of these. Some or all steps in such a shell script 
might entail calling Euphoria programs (or C programs or other shell
scripts....)

Regards,
Irv

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