1. new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a major
update, just some bug fixes.

I'm telling this here, because there seems to be a problem with the RDS-site.
When trying the User Contribution Submission, I get an [ Internal Error - no
opening " found ].
They're probably working on the system.

Also, on the user-contrib page, the titles and authors of the contributions is
remarkably small. When looking at the HTML-code, I see a <FONT SIZE=2> for those
elements.

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2. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a major
> update,
> just some bug fixes.
> 
> I'm telling this here, because there seems to be a problem with the RDS-site.
> When
> trying the User Contribution Submission, I get an [ Internal Error - no
> opening " found
> ].
> They're probably working on the system.
> 
> Also, on the user-contrib page, the titles and authors of the contributions is
> remarkably
> small. When looking at the HTML-code, I see a <FONT SIZE=2> for those
> elements.

Sorry about that, the small fonts were not an error at the website, but a
problem on my PC. I had just been testing some Win32Dib-demos, which use
Win32Lib, which might have caused the font-problems. Usually, the fonts change to
some big ugly font, but this time some fonts appeared a lot smaller.

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3. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a major
> update,
> just some bug fixes.
> 
> I'm telling this here, because there seems to be a problem with the RDS-site.
> When
> trying the User Contribution Submission, I get an [ Internal Error - no
> opening " found
> ].
> They're probably working on the system.

We haven't been working on the contribution system
for several days.

Were you using a different Web browser than normal
for submitting the update? Did you recently
change your settings on the message board?

Maybe you can try it again. It may have been
a temporary glitch.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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4. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> 
> A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a major
> update,
> just some bug fixes.

Tommy, I'm loading a bitmap with a color on there
of {255,128,128} (RGB), but apparently loadDib() or
drawDib() or something is changing it slightly to
{255,130,132} (RGB)! This is screwing with some
masking I'm doing... :/

Can you see what's happening there for me and let
me know?

Thanks!

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5. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

cklester wrote:
> Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > 
> > A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a
> > major update,
> > just some bug fixes.
> 
> Tommy, I'm loading a bitmap with a color on there
> of {255,128,128} (RGB), but apparently loadDib() or
> drawDib() or something is changing it slightly to
> {255,130,132} (RGB)! This is screwing with some
> masking I'm doing... :/
> 
> Can you see what's happening there for me and let
> me know?
> 
> Thanks!

I tried that and didn't get the color change. Could you tell me your Euphoria
version, OS, and perhaps some source code?

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6. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Robert Craig wrote:
> Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > A new version of Win32Dib (0.4.3) is available on my website. It's not a
> > major update,
> > just some bug fixes.
> > I'm telling this here, because there seems to be a problem with the
> > RDS-site. When
> > trying the User Contribution Submission, I get an [ Internal Error - no
> > opening "
> found
> > ].
> > They're probably working on the system.
> We haven't been working on the contribution system
> for several days.
> 
> Were you using a different Web browser than normal
> for submitting the update? Did you recently
> change your settings on the message board?
> 
> Maybe you can try it again. It may have been
> a temporary glitch.

I tried again, and got the same error. I did update my web browser: now I'm
using Opera 7.50 instead of Opera 7.21.

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7. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> I tried again, and got the same error. I did update my web browser: now I'm
> using Opera
> 7.50 instead of Opera 7.21.

I've got Opera 7.21, but I normally use Internet Explorer 6. 
I'll upgrade to Opera 7.50 and try to reproduce the bug.
If you try again with Internet Explorer I think it will work.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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8. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Robert Craig wrote:
> I've got Opera 7.21, but I normally use Internet Explorer 6. 
> I'll upgrade to Opera 7.50 and try to reproduce the bug.
> If you try again with Internet Explorer I think it will work.
> 

I confirmed Opera 7.21 works whereas 7.50 doesn't work.

The reason is that Opera has a different format of sending enctype form data
than IE and Netscape. For Opera 7.21, we added extra code to deal with Opera
format. Now, Opera 7.50 changed again. I consider this to be a bug for Opera
developers, and they probably will change again.

We are not going to keep changing our code so that the different versions
of Opera will work.

If you use the Opera browser, it's a good idea to use IE or Netscape when
you use User Contribution Submission.

Regards,
  Junko C. Miura
  Rapid Deployment Software
  http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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9. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Junko Miura wrote:
> 
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > I've got Opera 7.21, but I normally use Internet Explorer 6. 
> > I'll upgrade to Opera 7.50 and try to reproduce the bug.
> > If you try again with Internet Explorer I think it will work.
> > 
> 
> I confirmed Opera 7.21 works whereas 7.50 doesn't work.
>
> The reason is that Opera has a different format of sending enctype form data
> than IE and Netscape. For Opera 7.21, we added extra code to deal with Opera
> format. Now, Opera 7.50 changed again. I consider this to be a bug for Opera
> developers, and they probably will change again.

Opera tries to follow Web standards whereas IE does not.

> We are not going to keep changing our code so that the different versions
> of Opera will work.

The problem only occurs if either a FILENAME is supplied or a HTTP reference
is supplied. It works fine if both are supplied. There may be a bug in the
way you are handling Web standards. 

> If you use the Opera browser, it's a good idea to use IE or Netscape when
> you use User Contribution Submission.

I choose to use Opera, thus I will not be using the RDS submission routine.

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Melbourne, Australia

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10. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

On Mon, 17 May 2004 12:53:33 -0700, Junko Miura
<guest at RapidEuphoria.com> wrote:

>We are not going to keep changing our code so that the different versions
>of Opera will work.
I think you meant to say: We'll try, but we can't promise to keep our
code working when Opera keep on changing the goalposts blink)

Of course I understand you need to concentrate on making it work with
as many versions of IE as you can first, after all, the market share.

If you think what they've done is real pigheaded, you should probably
state that it won't work with opera 7.5 (,ever).

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11. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Derek Parnell wrote:
> I choose to use Opera, thus I will not be using the RDS submission routine.
> 
> -- 
> Derek Parnell
> Melbourne, Australia
> 

Thank you Derek. Your support is quite important, since Win32Lib is one of the
most used libraries.

I wish people stopped using the ancient, buggy, insecure,
non-standards-compliant browser that is Internet Explorer, and started using a
new-generation browser like Opera, Mozilla, Firefox, ...

I only use Internet Explorer to do Online Banking (Citibank requires Internet
Explorer and doesn't allow other browsers because of security: go figure), and to
test wether my own website looks acceptable in IE (first I test in Opera, until
it looks great there, then I test it in Mozilla Firefox and tweak the code, then
I test it in IE and try to make it look acceptable there too).

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12. Re: new Win32Dib + error in RDS-site

Derek wrote:

> Junko Miura wrote:
>>
>>
>> Robert Craig wrote:
>>> I've got Opera 7.21, but I normally use Internet Explorer 6.
>>> I'll upgrade to Opera 7.50 and try to reproduce the bug.
>>> If you try again with Internet Explorer I think it will work.
>>>
>>
>> I confirmed Opera 7.21 works whereas 7.50 doesn't work.
>>
>> The reason is that Opera has a different format of sending enctype form data
>> than IE and Netscape. For Opera 7.21, we added extra code to deal with Opera
>> format. Now, Opera 7.50 changed again. I consider this to be a bug for Opera
>> developers, and they probably will change again.
>
> Opera tries to follow Web standards whereas IE does not.

Yes, web pages should be conformant to W3C Recommendations and other standards.
I check my HTML documents by the W3C Markup Validation Service
   http://validator.w3.org/
before I load them up to the web server.

<snip>

Regards,
   Juergen

-- 
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does Bill need to change a light bulb?
A: None. He just declares darkness to be an industry standard.

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