1. LaunchPad 03

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> Hi Antonio,
> 
> The 'open with' list would refer to the list of files to be
> opened with the same program, if that program accepts multiple
> file opens (ie probably a multiple document type program, or
> else have the program open several times for different docs).
> The 'close' list would be a list of any programs associated with
> that button.  I guess each item on this list would have to
> accept drops from files (as you tried with Explorer) so that it
> can register that file with the program.
> 
> I guess two 'modes' of operation would be appropriate:
> mode one where the user registers all their programs and files and
> mode two where the user actually opens all this stuff.
> 
> Yes, the main window accepts drops from Windows Explorer, and creates
> a button (you get the message that it's not a shortcut but it will
> create the button anyway right? ).  This was meant to make it easy
> to create buttons directly from Windows Explorer files (ie exe programs
> or text files or whatever).  If you already have your system set up
> to associate an exe file with a document file you can drop that doc type
> file onto the main window and get a button that opens the file with
> the associated exe program.
> 
> One thing i havent done yet is get Internet Explorer drops to work,
> ie when you drop an internet path onto the main window directly from
> IE (it does accept internet paths from the shell however).  This
> must be a different clip format so i'll have to look into what format
> this is and how to access the data.
> 
> 
> Al
> 

Hi Al,

I'm not sure that a list of files to be opened with the same program 
could be really useful: multiple files change frequently, even during 
the same session, so they should be updated every time. 
For that is much more suitable a program with the default autoload. 
Programming this task should not be "expensive" then.

Ok for the 'close' list, but at this point I have lost how to create
the startup programs multi-list; but I'm sure not you :)

LaunchPad 03 
____________

Feedback: 
I met some problems with the WinClass:
D:\EUPHORIA\utils\WinClass1006r\launchPad\LP-400.exw:4
can't find GetStartupDir2.ew in D:\EUPHORIA\utils\WinClass1006r\launchPad
or in D:\EUPHORIA\include
include GetStartupDir2.ew as GSD

other required files by your prograqms are missing:
GetStartupDir.ew
UpperSort.e
pathops.e (pathops.ew could replace it)

I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs (I did, but it was not easy). 

Some more suggestions?

.Reduce the frames and buttons size, the Launchpad will be soon populated.
.Free the unused Lauchpad window space; the display is always too small.

.Create 2 or 3 small buttons (can take them ready from dEbUg_magic_box.ew) 
for the automatic resizing of the window (1) with tabs only as default, 
(2) with the 3 options to check, and (3) with the lower text box when needed)

.Set default work dir as the default program start dir; the user can change 
it if needed.

.could the Launchpad allow to drag and drop a file into an editor by its button?
Since a button for a text-file can be set - thanks to the system's "open with" -
suppose the editor is opened already: if I launch then a file to be edited
it could replace that currently loaded, or open a new instance of the same
editor;
to avoid this enough to drag the file into the editor: so, having the Launchpad 
ready, we could drag the button instead of searching that file through 
an Explorer folder (it is too much slow to load files by the program menu! 
I rarely use it..). This way the Launchpad could become a sort of multivalent, 
dynamic pad for hot objects.


It should be enough for a Sunday :)

antonio

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2. Re: LaunchPad 03

Antonio Alessi wrote:
> 
> Al Getz wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Antonio,
> > 
> > The 'open with' list would refer to the list of files to be
> > opened with the same program, if that program accepts multiple
> > file opens (ie probably a multiple document type program, or
> > else have the program open several times for different docs).
> > The 'close' list would be a list of any programs associated with
> > that button.  I guess each item on this list would have to
> > accept drops from files (as you tried with Explorer) so that it
> > can register that file with the program.
> > 
> > I guess two 'modes' of operation would be appropriate:
> > mode one where the user registers all their programs and files and
> > mode two where the user actually opens all this stuff.
> > 
> > Yes, the main window accepts drops from Windows Explorer, and creates
> > a button (you get the message that it's not a shortcut but it will
> > create the button anyway right? ).  This was meant to make it easy
> > to create buttons directly from Windows Explorer files (ie exe programs
> > or text files or whatever).  If you already have your system set up
> > to associate an exe file with a document file you can drop that doc type
> > file onto the main window and get a button that opens the file with
> > the associated exe program.
> > 
> > One thing i havent done yet is get Internet Explorer drops to work,
> > ie when you drop an internet path onto the main window directly from
> > IE (it does accept internet paths from the shell however).  This
> > must be a different clip format so i'll have to look into what format
> > this is and how to access the data.
> > 
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> 
> Hi Al,
> 
> I'm not sure that a list of files to be opened with the same program 
> could be really useful: multiple files change frequently, even during 
> the same session, so they should be updated every time. 
> For that is much more suitable a program with the default autoload. 
> Programming this task should not be "expensive" then.
> 
> Ok for the 'close' list, but at this point I have lost how to create
> the startup programs multi-list; but I'm sure not you :)
> 
> LaunchPad 03 
> ____________
> 
> Feedback: 
> }}}
<eucode>
> I met some problems with the WinClass:
> D:\EUPHORIA\utils\WinClass1006r\launchPad\LP-400.exw:4
> can't find GetStartupDir2.ew in D:\EUPHORIA\utils\WinClass1006r\launchPad
> or in D:\EUPHORIA\include
> include GetStartupDir2.ew as GSD
> </eucode>
{{{

> other required files by your prograqms are missing:
> }}}
<eucode>
> GetStartupDir.ew
> UpperSort.e
> pathops.e (pathops.ew could replace it)
> </eucode>
{{{

> I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs (I did, but it was not easy).
> 
> 
> Some more suggestions?
> 
> .Reduce the frames and buttons size, the Launchpad will be soon populated.
> .Free the unused Lauchpad window space; the display is always too small.
> 
> .Create 2 or 3 small buttons (can take them ready from dEbUg_magic_box.ew) 
> for the automatic resizing of the window (1) with tabs only as default, 
> (2) with the 3 options to check, and (3) with the lower text box when needed)
> 
> .Set default work dir as the default program start dir; the user can change
> 
> it if needed.
> 
> .could the Launchpad allow to drag and drop a file into an editor by its
> button?
> Since a button for a text-file can be set - thanks to the system's "open with"
> -
> suppose the editor is opened already: if I launch then a file to be edited
> it could replace that currently loaded, or open a new instance of the same
> editor;
> to avoid this enough to drag the file into the editor: so, having the
> Launchpad
> 
> ready, we could drag the button instead of searching that file through 
> an Explorer folder (it is too much slow to load files by the program menu! 
> I rarely use it..). This way the Launchpad could become a sort of multivalent,
> 
> dynamic pad for hot objects.
> 
> 
> It should be enough for a Sunday :)
> 
> antonio


Hello again,

Well guess what?  I changed my mind too about creating and maintaining
an 'open with' list.  Instead, i'll keep it simple by having a single
line in the list correspond to one .exe (or other) program.
This way the lines in the list will look like a batch file, almost.
BTW i did try the batch file thing and it does work, just a bit monitor
flashing.
Once i get the 'open' list for each button working, i'll work on the
'close' function.

I guess this will mean the following:


1. A tab button or tab display area will accept drops from another
   button from the current tab to create a new button.

2. Only the tab display area will accept drops from other Launch apps
   or from Windows Explorer or from an OLE enabled text app
   (like Wordpad for example) for creating new buttons.

3. For associated a file to be opened with a current button, drops
   will be accepted onto the button face but then the user will have
   to be prompted to decide to either:
   a.  Create a new 'open' file (like an exe program)
   b.  Create an association to an already present exe program (from a.)
       (like a text file for Notepad for example).  This will join
       with the last exe type file already present, unless it already
       has one and then it will create a new line with the same exe
       program named first (like: Notepad MyText.txt).

I guess next will be the 'close all' list, which will required finding
out how to track programs open with the ShellExecute command so they
can be closed individually.


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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3. Re: LaunchPad 03

Hi again Antonio,

Ok now i see the other errors too with the include files
missing.  I'll upload again.  

Thanks!

Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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4. Re: LaunchPad 03

Antonio Alessi wrote:
> I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs
> (I did, but it was not easy).
> 

I tried this and didnt have any problem.  You have to first select
the tab you want to rename, then right click on win background,
then select "rename tab".  Is that too hard or did something else
go wrong?

Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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5. Re: LaunchPad 03

Al Getz wrote:
> 
> Antonio Alessi wrote:
> > I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs
> > (I did, but it was not easy).
> > 
> 
> I tried this and didnt have any problem.  You have to first select
> the tab you want to rename, then right click on win background,
> then select "rename tab".  Is that too hard or did something else
> go wrong?
> 
> Al
> 

> Antonio Alessi wrote:
> > Ok for the 'close' list, but at this point I have lost how to create
> > the startup programs multi-list; but I'm sure not you :)

Al Getz wrote:

>I changed my mind too about creating and maintaining an 'open with' list. 

I did not change my mind; just did not yet see how you were going to set 
the startup list.


> 
> Antonio Alessi wrote:
> > I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs
> > (I did, but it was not easy).
> > 
> 
> I tried this and didnt have any problem.  You have to first select
> the tab you want to rename, then right click on win background,
> then select "rename tab".  Is that too hard or did something else
> go wrong?
> 
> Al
> 

You didn't have any problem 'cause you already know how to do..
I did not associate the "Type the name of a new button or tab here" to the 
bottom and the "rename tab" command that appear in the popup menu 
near to the tab that I click; names overlapped causing confusion.
_____________

Get here a sample of how the buttons (and the window itself) can be reduced, 
and a couple of icons that I set (to 256 colors) to customize the Lauchpad:

http://www.myway.it/EU/LP-400_.zip

"Traffic" could suit, but you could like better the "Pink Panther",
do you? (obviously you decide for everything about.. I like to joke).

antonio

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6. Re: LaunchPad 03

Antonio Alessi wrote:
> > Antonio Alessi wrote:
> > > I had problems trying to rename Launchpad tabs
> > > (I did, but it was not easy).
> > > 
> > 
> > I tried this and didnt have any problem.  You have to first select
> > the tab you want to rename, then right click on win background,
> > then select "rename tab".  Is that too hard or did something else
> > go wrong?
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> 
> You didn't have any problem 'cause you already know how to do..
> I did not associate the "Type the name of a new button or tab here" to the 
> bottom and the "rename tab" command that appear in the popup menu 
> near to the tab that I click; names overlapped causing confusion.
> _____________
> 
> Get here a sample of how the buttons (and the window itself) can be reduced,
> 
> and a couple of icons that I set (to 256 colors) to customize the Lauchpad:
> 
> <a
> href="http://www.myway.it/EU/LP-400_.zip">http://www.myway.it/EU/LP-400_.zip</a>
> 
> "Traffic" could suit, but you could like better the "Pink Panther",
> do you? (obviously you decide for everything about.. I like to joke).
> 
> antonio

Hi Antonio,


Oh ok, i see what you mean now.  I put a note about that in the help
file that comes with the Launcher now (new upload to archives too).
I guess the menu help needs an update too though.

I like the icons, the traffic light the best :)


Take care,
Al

And, good luck with your Euphoria programming!

My bumper sticker: "I brake for LED's"

 From "Black Knight":
"I can live with losing the good fight,
 but i can not live without fighting it".
"Well on second thought, maybe not."

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