1. RE: IDE Grouping Issues

cklester at yahoo.com wrote:
> I created a few set of controls and then decided to place them in a 
> group. I
> created the group control then positioned each child control into the 
> group.
> The IDE is smart enough to make the group control the parent control of 
> each
> control place in the group control. However, the IDE ain't smart enough 
> to
> know that the parent group needs to be CREATED in the code before the 
> child
> controls! 

Ouch! I used to have this correct. I'll go back through my notes and see 
what is going on.

>When I run the form, it crashes saying Group28 not defined... So,
> the IDE needs to know to create parents before children.

Yes, it *used* to keep that straight by moving the children behind the 
group in the IDE sequence. I guess with some 'enhancement' in 0.10.5 I 
goofed.

In the meantime, what you can do is go to  Menu Run/Tab Order Controls 
and place the group behind its children.

> 
> Also, I'd like to be able to use <TAB> in the Form Design window to 
> check
> the tab order. I mean, when I hit <TAB> with a control selected in the 
> Form
> Design window, it goes to the next control in the sequence.

Really! When I use <Tab> nothing happens. I don't have anything in 
Design about tabbing. But if you mean in your EXW program, you have to 
use MENU Run/Tab Order Controls to change the tabbing from the order 
created/moved in IDE. What this routine does is change the order the 
controls are created in the EXW. IDE is constantly shuffling the 
controls around as they are added/moved/moved into and out of containers 
e.g. group; this is an area I want to improve upon, eventually.

> 
> Finally, if I've got a group of controls in a group control, when I 
> <TAB> it
> only selects subsequent items in that group. IOW, it never selects 
> controls
> OUTSIDE of that group control. This is not expected behavior in the 
> Windows
> environment that I'm aware of...

Now it really sounds like you mean in your EXW program. Here again I 
create the controls in the order IDE has them unless over-ridden with 
the Menu Run/Tab Order Controls.

Let me know, 

Judith



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2. RE: IDE Grouping Issues

cklester at yahoo.com wrote:
> Judith,
> 
> > > Also, I'd like to be able to use <TAB> in the Form Design window to
> > > check the tab order. I mean, when I hit <TAB> with a control selected in
> the
> > > Form Design window, it goes to the next control in the sequence.
> >
> > Really! When I use <Tab> nothing happens.
> 
> My statement was quite ambiguous... Here it is revised and 
> understandable:
> 
> I'd like to be able to use <TAB> in the Form Design window to jump from
> control to control. Right now it doesn't do that.

The problem is that the controls are DRAWN and not real. So there isn't 
anything to <Tab> to that I know of. 

> 
> > > Finally, if I've got a group of controls in a group control, when I
> > > <TAB> it only selects subsequent items in that group. IOW, it never
> selects
> > > controls OUTSIDE of that group control. This is not expected behavior in
> the
> > > Windows environment that I'm aware of...
> >
> > Now it really sounds like you mean in your EXW program.
> 
> Yes. This time I mean in my EXW program.
> 
> At the top of my form I have a group control, with four text boxes 
> within.
> When I run the EXW, when I press <TAB>, the only controls ever selected 
> are
> the ones in the group. I have many more outside the group. Is that 
> clear?

Absolutely. But I don't do anything with the controls except create them 
in order. If you write your own exw without using IDE does it act 
differently?

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