1. threads page
I'm still working on it, but here's a first cut at a threads page:
http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/threads.html
- I'll ask Junko to help me improve the HTML formatting.
- The dates should really include the month name
- In a few cases the message count shown will be smaller than
what esearch.exu reports, since esearch might go back
slightly further into the database
- I'm toying with the idea of listing the names of all
the repliers, in order, on the following line(s). Clicking a name
would take you to the corresponding message.
This might create an overly "busy" page though.
Clicking to expand/contract a thread would require a CGI program
and is a bit hard to do
- any other ideas?
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
2. Re: threads page
- Posted by CChris <christian.cuvier at ag?ic?lture.gouv.fr>
Mar 08, 2008
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Last edited Mar 09, 2008
Robert Craig wrote:
>
> I'm still working on it, but here's a first cut at a threads page:
>
> <a
> href="http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/threads.html">http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/threads.html</a>
>
> - I'll ask Junko to help me improve the HTML formatting.
>
> - The dates should really include the month name
>
> - In a few cases the message count shown will be smaller than
> what esearch.exu reports, since esearch might go back
> slightly further into the database
>
> - I'm toying with the idea of listing the names of all
> the repliers, in order, on the following line(s). Clicking a name
> would take you to the corresponding message.
> This might create an overly "busy" page though.
> Clicking to expand/contract a thread would require a CGI program
> and is a bit hard to do
>
> - any other ideas?
>
> Regards,
> Rob Craig
> Rapid Deployment Software
> <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>
This is already a definite improvement.
However, I see something weird there: clicking the "Previous page" link gets me
to a regular post page - I thought it was a previous page of threads. Clicking
"Next page" from there led me to the current post page, not the threads page.
Perhaps the usual http://openeuphoria.org/Euforum/ should keep leading to the
most recent posts page. A link from there woul go to most recent threads. The
most recent and least recent thread pages would both link to that most recent
post page. Makes sense?
CChris
3. Re: threads page
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEup?or?a.com>
Mar 08, 2008
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Last edited Mar 09, 2008
CChris wrote:
> However, I see something weird there: clicking the "Previous page" link gets
> me to a regular post page - I thought it was a previous page of threads.
> Clicking
> "Next page" from there led me to the current post page, not the threads page.
Sorry, that "Previous Page" link is there just because I copied some
existing code and forgot to change it. It should probably link
to the latest normal (non-threads) page, and the latest normal page
should have a link somewhere to the threads, once I'm finished
changing things.
> Perhaps the usual <a
> href="http://openeuphoria.org/Euforum/">http://openeuphoria.org/Euforum/</a>
> should keep leading to the most recent posts page. A link from there woul go
> to most recent
> threads. The most recent and least recent thread pages would both link to that
> most recent
> post page. Makes sense?
I don't plan to have more than one threads page,
since with a single page, it reaches back about
3 months (currently mid December),
which includes all of the messages organized in EUforum format
(about 12 pages of messages).
I don't think people want to see threads that are so old
that it would be weird to reply to them.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
4. Re: threads page
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at ?i?pond.com>
Mar 08, 2008
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Last edited Mar 09, 2008
Why does
" Latest Contributions (Was Re: Reading comma delimited .csv data files)"
and
"Re: Latest Contributions (Was Re: Reading comma delimited .csv data"
appear as different items when they are in the same thread? They must be in the
same thread because clicking on either takes you to a age that contains both
items.
The date is misleading. Only items in the last week should have 'DAYNAME' in it.
All others need YYYY/MM/DD formatting for easy mental sorting and cross cultural
formats.
The ability to sort by Thread Topic would be very useful when looking for a
specific thread.
Can you use a bit more CSS in the HTML and less hard-coded formatting? For
example, if the date column was something like <td style=eudate> Wed
23:13</td>, I can then use my own style sheet to enforce fixed-size fonts for
easier reading. Also, I don't think the <br> is needed after the date. That would
also significantly reduce the size of the transmitted page.
Instead of limiting the page to a maximum of 25 articles, might it not be better
to make the limit based on size of page? That would help consistant transmission
times. Maybe this could be a user setup option?
--
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
Skype name: derek.j.parnell
5. Re: threads page
Derek Parnell wrote:
> Why does
> " Latest Contributions (Was Re: Reading comma delimited .csv data files)"
>
> and
>
> "Re: Latest Contributions (Was Re: Reading comma delimited .csv data"
>
> appear as different items when they are in the same thread? They must be in
> the same thread because clicking on either takes you to a age that contains
> both items.
That's a bug.
It had to do with the subject being quite long.
I think I've fixed it now.
> The date is misleading. Only items in the last week should have 'DAYNAME' in
> it. All others need YYYY/MM/DD formatting for easy mental sorting and cross
> cultural formats.
Yes. I'll see what I can do there.
It's a bit complicated to fix it.
> The ability to sort by Thread Topic would be very useful when looking for a
> specific thread.
Maybe.
> Can you use a bit more CSS in the HTML and less hard-coded formatting? For
> example,
> if the date column was something like <td style=eudate> Wed 23:13</td>,
> I can then use my own style sheet to enforce fixed-size fonts for easier
> reading.
> Also, I don't think the <br> is needed after the date. That would also
> significantly
> reduce the size of the transmitted page.
I'll ask Junko about that.
> Instead of limiting the page to a maximum of 25 articles, might it not be
> better
> to make the limit based on size of page? That would help consistant
> transmission
> times. Maybe this could be a user setup option?
Sounds like a bit too much work. 
I've got 7 Mbit/sec cable, so I guess I'm not
very sensitive to this. I could change "25" to
something smaller, but back when I had 56K dial-up,
we designed it to output the messages in discrete
tables of 5, so even with a slow connection,
your browser should display the first set
of 5 messages as soon as it receives them.
While you are browsing those, the next set of 5
should arrive etc.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
6. Re: threads page
Hi
These threads are a great start on the way towards a forum format.
I have a couple of requests.
Any chance of a reply to thread button, so that you don't need to open up the
last message.
The thread position doesn't change - might it be an idea to sort the thread
according to the last reply - ie this reply will still be several from the
bottom in the list of threads, and it might make more sense to have it placed
to the bottom.
All in all, I like this.
Chris
7. Re: threads page
ChrisBurch2 wrote:
> I have a couple of requests.
>
> Any chance of a reply to thread button, so that you don't need to open up the
> last message.
I'll think about it.
> The thread position doesn't change - might it be an idea to sort the thread
> according to the last reply - ie this reply will still be several from the
> bottom in the list of threads, and it might make more sense to have it placed
> to the bottom.
Yes, it might be better for threads to be sorted
according to the most recent message posted to the thread,
rather than the first message. I'll consider it.
The next thing I plan to do is improve the date format.
You'd think this would be a trivial thing, but it's not.
The code is a bit complicated in that area.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
8. Re: threads page
Robert Craig wrote:
> Yes, it might be better for threads to be sorted
> according to the most recent message posted to the thread,
> rather than the first message. I'll consider it.
While this topic is fresh, my suggestion would be to sort both the threads and
the individual message pages from top down, rather than from bottom up. My
browser opens the pages indicated and then I have to scroll to the bottom to see
new messages/threads. So much nicer it would be if the need to scroll was
eliminated.
9. Re: threads page
Mike777 wrote:
> While this topic is fresh, my suggestion would be to sort both the threads and
> the individual message pages from top down, rather than from bottom up. My
> browser opens the pages indicated and then I have to scroll to the bottom to
> see new messages/threads. So much nicer it would be if the need to scroll was
> eliminated.
Yes, some people like the toilet tissue to hang down in front
of the roll, while others like it to hang down at the back.
I suspect if we voted it would be about 50/50, but I kind of
like it the way it is.
If you get to EUforum via a bookmark, try using this one:
http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/index.html#bottom
It should take you straight to the bottom.
By the way, I changed the date format on the threads page,
added the month to the individual EUforum messages,
and starting in about a week, the older message pages will
start showing the month instead of the day of the week and time.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
10. Re: threads page
Robert Craig wrote:
>
> If you get to EUforum via a bookmark, try using this one:
>
> <a
> href="http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/index.html#bottom">http://www.openeuphoria.org/EUforum/index.html#bottom</a>
>
> It should take you straight to the bottom.
It does indeed. A perfect solution.
Thanks
