1. Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad
numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
among others less common.
Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
Any ideas?
Regards.
2. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
Ricardo Forno wrote:
> In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad
> numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
> In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
> among others less common.
> Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
> Any ideas?
> Regards.
Hm ... strange.
I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro.
I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine.
Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the
problem on your system.
Regards,
Juergen
---------------
(*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
3. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
Juergen Luethje wrote:
>
> Ricardo Forno wrote:
>
> > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad
> > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
> > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
> > among others less common.
> > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
> > Any ideas?
> > Regards.
>
> Hm ... strange.
> I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro.
> I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine.
> Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the
> problem on your system.
>
> Regards,
> Juergen
>
> ---------------
> (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
Hi, Juergen.
This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and
no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you
release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that:
Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on:
it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it
was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized
keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the
keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key
raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters.
The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under
old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs.
Rob?
4. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
Ricardo Forno wrote:
>
> Juergen Luethje wrote:
> >
> > Ricardo Forno wrote:
> >
> > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad
> > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
> > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
> > > among others less common.
> > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
> > > Any ideas?
> > > Regards.
> >
> > Hm ... strange.
> > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro.
> > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine.
> > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the
> > problem on your system.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Juergen
> >
> > ---------------
> > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
>
> Hi, Juergen.
> This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and
> no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you
> release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that:
> Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on:
> it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it
> was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized
> keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the
> keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key
> raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters.
>
> The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under
> old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs.
>
> Rob?
It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat
uses ex or exwc
There are two different ed.bat's floating around.
On a file called junk (say), try:
ex ed.ex junk
vs.
exwc ed.ex junk
The installer creates a different ed.bat,
depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows.
On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full
support for long filename creation).
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
5. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
Robert Craig wrote:
> Ricardo Forno wrote:
> >
> > Juergen Luethje wrote:
> > >
> > > Ricardo Forno wrote:
> > >
> > > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric
> > > > Keypad
> > > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
> > > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
> > > > among others less common.
> > > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Hm ... strange.
> > > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro.
> > > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine.
> > > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the
> > > problem on your system.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > > ---------------
> > > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
> >
> > Hi, Juergen.
> > This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and
> > no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you
> > release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that:
> > Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on:
> > it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it
> > was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized
> > keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the
> > keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key
> > raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters.
> >
> > The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under
> > old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs.
> >
> > Rob?
>
> It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat
> uses ex or exwc
> There are two different ed.bat's floating around.
>
> On a file called junk (say), try:
> ex ed.ex junk
> vs.
> exwc ed.ex junk
>
> The installer creates a different ed.bat,
> depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows.
> On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full
> support for long filename creation).
The version of ed.bat that I had used in my previous test says
ex.exe ed.ex %1 %2 %3
Now I recall, that I had installed Eu 3.0.2 on Windows 98, and
then just copied the files to Windows XP.
When I use
exwc ed.ex junk
then alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 do _not_ work as expected, but
do he same things that you describe, Ricardo.
Regards,
Juergen
6. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
Juergen Luethje wrote:
>
> Ricardo Forno wrote:
>
> > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad
> > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED.
> > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62)
> > among others less common.
> > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work.
> > Any ideas?
> > Regards.
>
> Hm ... strange.
> I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro.
> I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine.
> Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the
> problem on your system.
>
> Regards,
> Juergen
>
> ---------------
> (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
A possibility is that some other installed software is trapping the
relevant keys. At least, thats what happens on ly system (XP SP2).
And when I disable the software, the Alt-0xxx combos don't have any effect.
Perhaps uninstalling the software could return the system to its standard
(is it still standard?) behaviour.
CChris
PS: btw, FreeShade from www.hmmm.org is a little freebee which I enjoy. Even
though it doesn't roll up all windows - the most notorious exception being
msn's conversation windows. But nearly all. Also, when an app manages its
system menu, the freeshade entry usually goes away. Apart from that it's great!
7. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Ricardo Forno <ricardoforno at tutopia.com>
Feb 20, 2007
-
Last edited Feb 21, 2007
> > Hi, Juergen.
> > This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and
> > no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you
> > release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that:
> > Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on:
> > it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it
> > was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized
> > keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the
> > keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key
> > raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters.
> >
> > The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under
> > old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs.
> >
> > Rob?
>
> It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat
> uses ex or exwc
> There are two different ed.bat's floating around.
>
> On a file called junk (say), try:
> ex ed.ex junk
> vs.
> exwc ed.ex junk
>
> The installer creates a different ed.bat,
> depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows.
> On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full
> support for long filename creation).
>
> Regards,
> Rob Craig
> Rapid Deployment Software
> <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>
Hi, Rob.
Still same behavior using:
exwc ed.ex junk
:-\
Regards
