1. Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Ricardo Forno <ricardoforno at tutopia.com> Feb 19, 2007
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In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) among others less common. Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. Any ideas? Regards.
2. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Juergen Luethje <j.lue at gmx.de> Feb 19, 2007
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Ricardo Forno wrote: > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) > among others less common. > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. > Any ideas? > Regards. Hm ... strange. I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro. I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine. Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the problem on your system. Regards, Juergen --------------- (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob!
3. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Ricardo Forno <ricardoforno at tutopia.com> Feb 20, 2007
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Juergen Luethje wrote: > > Ricardo Forno wrote: > > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) > > among others less common. > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. > > Any ideas? > > Regards. > > Hm ... strange. > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro. > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine. > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the > problem on your system. > > Regards, > Juergen > > --------------- > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob! Hi, Juergen. This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that: Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on: it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters. The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs. Rob?
4. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com> Feb 20, 2007
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Ricardo Forno wrote: > > Juergen Luethje wrote: > > > > Ricardo Forno wrote: > > > > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad > > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. > > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) > > > among others less common. > > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. > > > Any ideas? > > > Regards. > > > > Hm ... strange. > > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro. > > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine. > > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the > > problem on your system. > > > > Regards, > > Juergen > > > > --------------- > > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob! > > Hi, Juergen. > This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and > no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you > release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that: > Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on: > it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it > was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized > keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the > keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key > raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters. > > The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under > old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs. > > Rob? It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat uses ex or exwc There are two different ed.bat's floating around. On a file called junk (say), try: ex ed.ex junk vs. exwc ed.ex junk The installer creates a different ed.bat, depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows. On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full support for long filename creation). Regards, Rob Craig Rapid Deployment Software http://www.RapidEuphoria.com
5. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Juergen Luethje <j.lue at gmx.de> Feb 20, 2007
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Robert Craig wrote: > Ricardo Forno wrote: > > > > Juergen Luethje wrote: > > > > > > Ricardo Forno wrote: > > > > > > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric > > > > Keypad > > > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. > > > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) > > > > among others less common. > > > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Hm ... strange. > > > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro. > > > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine. > > > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the > > > problem on your system. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Juergen > > > > > > --------------- > > > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob! > > > > Hi, Juergen. > > This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and > > no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you > > release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that: > > Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on: > > it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it > > was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized > > keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the > > keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key > > raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters. > > > > The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under > > old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs. > > > > Rob? > > It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat > uses ex or exwc > There are two different ed.bat's floating around. > > On a file called junk (say), try: > ex ed.ex junk > vs. > exwc ed.ex junk > > The installer creates a different ed.bat, > depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows. > On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full > support for long filename creation). The version of ed.bat that I had used in my previous test says ex.exe ed.ex %1 %2 %3 Now I recall, that I had installed Eu 3.0.2 on Windows 98, and then just copied the files to Windows XP. When I use exwc ed.ex junk then alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 do _not_ work as expected, but do he same things that you describe, Ricardo. Regards, Juergen
6. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by CChris <christian.cuvier at agriculture.gouv.fr> Feb 20, 2007
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Juergen Luethje wrote: > > Ricardo Forno wrote: > > > In previous versions of EU and under W98, I could type Alt-Numeric Keypad > > numbers to get characters not present in the keyboard when using ED. > > In my case, I have to do so with ~ (alt-126), < (alt-60) and > (alt-62) > > among others less common. > > Now, under Windows XP and version 3, this doesn't work. > > Any ideas? > > Regards. > > Hm ... strange. > I just tested it on my notebook with Eu 3.0.2(*) under Windows XP Pro. > I started "ed.bat", and alt-126, alt-60 and alt-62 worked fine. > Unfortunately, I don't have an idea what could be the cause of the > problem on your system. > > Regards, > Juergen > > --------------- > (*) Many thanks for the update, Rob! A possibility is that some other installed software is trapping the relevant keys. At least, thats what happens on ly system (XP SP2). And when I disable the software, the Alt-0xxx combos don't have any effect. Perhaps uninstalling the software could return the system to its standard (is it still standard?) behaviour. CChris PS: btw, FreeShade from www.hmmm.org is a little freebee which I enjoy. Even though it doesn't roll up all windows - the most notorious exception being msn's conversation windows. But nearly all. Also, when an app manages its system menu, the freeshade entry usually goes away. Apart from that it's great!
7. Re: Alt-Numeric Keypad not working
- Posted by Ricardo Forno <ricardoforno at tutopia.com> Feb 20, 2007
- 519 views
- Last edited Feb 21, 2007
> > Hi, Juergen. > > This is just the EU version I started to use. I checked it once more and > > no, it doesn't work. It is as if alt-keypad doesn't wait until you > > release the alt-key to start decoding the keystrokes. I found that: > > Alt-1 goes to the end of the line, alt-2 goes to the next line, and so on: > > it seems as if you were using the numeric pad with Num-lock off. But it > > was on! Moreover, the num-lock key raises the usual message for unrecognized > > keystrokes, but it toggles between Num lock off and on. Keying 1 from the > > keypad while num-lock is on merely inserts a 1, as expected. The / key > > raises an error. *, -, + insert the corresponding characters. > > > > The computer and the keyboard seem to be OK. For example, under > > old-fashioned Edit no problem occurs. > > > > Rob? > > It makes a difference whether your version of ed.bat > uses ex or exwc > There are two different ed.bat's floating around. > > On a file called junk (say), try: > ex ed.ex junk > vs. > exwc ed.ex junk > > The installer creates a different ed.bat, > depending on whether it's XP, or some earlier version of Windows. > On XP, exwc seems to work better (faster response, and with full > support for long filename creation). > > Regards, > Rob Craig > Rapid Deployment Software > <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a> Hi, Rob. Still same behavior using: exwc ed.ex junk :-\ Regards