1. Propogating Euphoria

Hello,

I, once again am involved in propogating the use of Euphoria.  I have
an assignment (in my dpr110 class this time) to do a presentation and
paper on a subject that interests me.  I, of course, chose Euphoria
but it wasn't until today that I realized that I had to do some charts
and/or graphs as well.  I plan on doing on of speed comparison among
several languages including Euphoria but I have to have at least 2 and
I can't think of anything else except comparing the learning curve of
Eu with other languages.  However, learning dificulty is more or less
a personal oppinion and since I don't know a lot of lagnuages, I need
your help.  Please follow the simple directions below and I will be
greatly appreciative:

Rate the following languages from 1 to 10 by how dificult they were
for you to learn.  1 is easy.  10 is hard.  Put N/A if you didn't
learn one. Send me a mail at "keroltarr at hotmail.com" with this
information. Thank you.

Name                     Example
--------                 -------
Assembly                 10
Basic                    2
C/C++                    8
COBOL                    9
Euphoria                 1
Pascal                   5
Visual Basic             3

feel free to add to the list if I missed a major one.


Also RDS, it's been a while since I read the propaganda included in
the Euphoria package.  Are the exact specs for speed tests included
in them?  If not, could you please send me some numbers so I won't
have to make up any?

TIA all,
Lewis Townsend

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2. Re: Propogating Euphoria

Lewis Townsend writes:
> Also RDS, it's been a while since I read the propaganda
> included in the Euphoria package.  Are the exact specs for
> speed tests included in them?

Thanks for trying to spread the word about Euphoria.

In the demo\bench directory there are some benchmark
programs written in Euphoria and QBasic. BENCH.DOC
summarizes the results. BENCH.DOC also quotes some
results against other languages, but the source code in
these other languages isn't supplied.

Someone once said that there are 3 levels of lies:
   1. Lies
   2. Damn Lies
   3. Benchmarks

I think the benchmarks in demo\bench are reasonably fair,
but you should always be suspicious of benchmarks created
by the proponents of one side in a contest. If you have time,
you might want to make up your own benchmarks.

As for propaganda, see c.doc (c.htm) and basic.doc (basic.htm).

Regards,
     Rob Craig
     Rapid Deployment Software
     http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/

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3. Propogating Euphoria

Thanks to the following people for helping me with my project:

Robert Craig
Rod Jackson
Irv Mullins
Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen
Ferlin Scarborough
Jay Turley
Adam Weeden

Since you cared enough to respond to my message I figure you might be
interested in my research results.  Here are the Averages, the
oppinions varried widely but nobody gave Euphoria more than a 2.
Here's the stats in order of decreasing difficulty:

                AVERAGE
Languages       Dificulty
=========       =========
Fortran         8.0
Assembly        7.0
COBOL           7.0
C/C++           5.0
Pascal          3.8
Basic           2.6
Visual Basic    2.5
Dlephi          2.0
Euphoria        1.4

note: results are rounded to one decimal place for easy reading.


Thanks again for all your help
Lewis Townsend

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4. Re: Propogating Euphoria

Lewis Townsend wrote:

>                 AVERAGE
> Languages       Dificulty
> =========       =========
> Fortran         8.0
> Assembly        7.0
> COBOL           7.0
> C/C++           5.0
> Pascal          3.8
> Basic           2.6
> Visual Basic    2.5
> Dlephi          2.0
> Euphoria        1.4
>
> note: results are rounded to one decimal place for easy reading.
>

and about Liberty Basic?for sure 1.1

--
N u n o  B a r r o s                      [ W e b   D e s i g n e r ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ m a i l ] nuno.barros at ip.pt             [ i c q ]     6 4 4 8 3 8 8
----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ Webdesign Portfolio ]                    http://nuno.homepage.nu
[ e.topia ]             -in construction- http://etopia.homepage.nu
[ Chaos Squad ]                           http://gollop.homepage.nu
[ L i m b o ]                             http://limbo.homepage.nu
----------------------------------------------------------------------

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5. Re: Propogating Euphoria

>
> and about Liberty Basic?for sure 1.1
>

If you like 16bit code.

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6. Re: Propogating Euphoria

Daniel Berstein wrote:

> >
> > and about Liberty Basic?for sure 1.1
> >
>
> If you like 16bit code.

wasn't the question about simplicity of coding? ;)I'm well aware of LB
limitations... It could be a great language...


--
N u n o  B a r r o s                      [ W e b   D e s i g n e r ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ m a i l ] nuno.barros at ip.pt             [ i c q ]     6 4 4 8 3 8 8
----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Webdesign Portfolio                     http://nuno.homepage.nu
    e . t o p i a       -in construction- http://etopia.homepage.nu
 C h a o s  S q u a d                     http://gollop.homepage.nu
      L i m b o                           http://limbo.homepage.nu
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