OpenEuphoria

1. Shrouding

• Posted by Alex Chamberlain <alex.chamberlain at tiscali.co.uk> Nov 13, 2005
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• Last edited Nov 14, 2005

I am considering buying the shrouder, but does it get rid of platform() calls?
Also, will a file shrouded under Windows work on Linux?

Thanks,
Alex

3. Re: Shrouding

• Posted by Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com> Nov 13, 2005
• 585 views
• Last edited Nov 14, 2005

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> I am considering buying the shrouder, but does it get rid of platform() calls?

In 2.5 official, the shrouder issues a PLATFORM IL operation that is
executed by whichever backend you use to run the .il file. The result
will be different on each platform.

The binder, on the other hand, simply replaces platform() 
by 1, 2, 3 etc. at bind time. The binder knows which platform
the resulting .exe file is going to run on. The shrouder can't
be totally sure, so it leaves that issue until run-time.

> Also, will a file shrouded under Windows work on Linux?

Yes.
As a minor issue, you might have to be careful about the 
shebang (#!) line that's supplied by default when you don't 
specify one explicitly.
I just tested a small program now, and it worked, Windows->Linux. 
I don't think many people have tried this though. Almost everyone 
shrouds on the same operating system that they are going to run on.
Be sure to FTP in binary mode. .il files are binary files.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

5. Re: Shrouding

• Posted by Pete Lomax <petelomax at blueyonder.co.uk> Nov 10, 2003
• 602 views

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:48:56 -0800, Daniel Kluss
<codepilot at netzero.net> wrote:

>Ive had been reg euphoria since like december of 2000, but I've never shrouded
>anything before.
>How do you shoud source and have it still useable by include?
>
I've been doing quite a bit of that this year 

If it is a fairly simple source without any include statements, then
it is very easy. Just include the output file as normal.

If there are some include statements, then only the global routines
and constants defined in the main file remain global after shrouding,
so you may have to write a small wrapper at the toplevel, eg, I have:

global procedure setCommissionCode(sequence Code)
	SetCommissionCode(Code) -- see register.ew
end procedure

because SetCommissionCode (with a capital S) from the included file is
otherwise not callable after shrouding.

Conversely, global variables remain global no matter where they are
defined, so if you want to hide them, you have to make them local to a
sub-include file and in that file write global set and get functions
(which automatically cease to be global after shrouding), eg I have:

atom A4Mapping
global procedure SetA4Mapping(atom a4m)
	A4Mapping=a4m
end procedure
global function GetA4Mapping()
	return A4Mapping
end function

where normally I might just have global atom A4Mapping. You only need
to do this if it is important that A4Mapping is not visible externally
once the source has been shrouded.

If your shrouded source uses win32lib or similar, then it can get very
messy. I've managed it, but with hindsight I could have made my life
much easier by finding some way, any way, not to do it . I can help
out if you need me to, just ask.

Pete
http://palacebuilders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/euphoria.html

7. Shrouding

• Posted by Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com> Jun 28, 2001
• 569 views

9. Re: Shrouding

• Posted by Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com> Jun 29, 2001
• 595 views

From: Tony Bucholtz <tony_bucholtz at hotmail.com>
> G'day all
> 
> Robert Craig wrote:
> > If you choose the "scramble" option, then nobody can
> > read anything, but you can document the nice global
> > names you used in your original source file, and people 
> > who include your file can use them.
> 
> Maybe what we need is a combination of some of the earlier ideas, 
> such as:
> 
> 1. Preprocessor to prepend a comment block regarding globals and
> includes, extracted from the code
> 2. The "with shrouding" and "without shrouding" directives
> 3. Expand the "with/without shrouding" directives to also imply
> "with scrambling" and "without scrambling", to *always* leave the
> comment block (and anything else the author wants to reveal) in
> clear text

I believe that adding 'clear text' comments to the start of an otherwise 
shrouded file is an excellent one - distribute one file instead of two, 
and your docs can never get out of sync with your library. 

Probably there is a technical reason why Rob can't do this:
I think Euphoria looks at something (the first few bytes, perhaps) of 
each file when it is included, and ships it off to the 'deshrouder' 
routine if necessary. Probably, once a file is determined to be in plain 
text, i.e. a readable include file, it goes straight to the interpreter.

Maybe it would require a complete re-design of the interpreter to make 
it smart enough to handle mixed files.

Regards,
Irv

11. Re: Shrouding

• Posted by Irv Mullins <irvm at ellijay.com> Jun 29, 2001
• 585 views

On Friday 29 June 2001 15:01, Robert Craig wrote:

> You *can* add comments to either a shrouded
> or a scrambled file after you create it.
> You can even add statements.
> Insert your comments or code before or after
> any scrambled code, not in the middle.
> (You'll have technical difficulties with certain non-ascii
> characters if you use ed on a scrambled file,
> but NotePad will work.)

Thanks! I had no idea that this was possible, but it works fine.

Regards,
Irv