1. Euphorai jobs
Hello,
Since I started this thread I guess I should keep y'all updated.
I am still unemployed but have been looking at freelance sites and bid on
several projects. I always bid significantly lower than the original
estimate. Still no responses. The best looking sites require that you pay
for their services. Is it worth it considdering I have next to no "official"
programming experience? It seems that contrary to popular belief, employers
look for experience in a freelancer as much as anyone else. I am also
looking for art/computer graphics jobs. No luck there either. I have a
decent size portfolio of good work too. Now, I'm working on building it as
well as my "software portfolio". Hey if anyone here wants any artwork done
for a game or something.. I'm real cheap! and good! 
If you want examples
of my work, check out my LewisArtillery game and my "Karitaren" demo on my
website:
http://geocities.com/keroltarr/ I do ALL my own graphics.
later all,
Lewis Townsend
2. Re: Euphorai jobs
On Sunday 24 June 2001 23:39, Lewis Townsend wrote:
> Since I started this thread I guess I should keep y'all updated.
> I am still unemployed but have been looking at freelance sites and bid on
> several projects. I always bid significantly lower than the original
> estimate. <<----
Not a good idea! People generally have a concept of what
things are worth, if not they probably will get several bids.
If you bid way low, they may conclude that either you
have misunderstood the nature of the work, or that you
are so inexperienced that you think this stuff is easy!
In either case, this makes you a risky choice for
the job. This is especially true if you have no references
to call who can vouch for you.
Now - one thing that has worked for me in the past:
Offer to create a demo of the software they need for
no charge. Be sure they understand that this is just
going to be a 'demonstration of concept' - meaning
basically a user interface with no working code
underneath. This is something you can whip together
in a few hours, but which will still impress the client,
and more importantly, the client's employees, with
a spiffy-looking, modern, easy-to-use 'program'.
And, since you put it together so quickly, and it
actually runs, you obviously must know what
you're doing - right?
Once they're sufficiently impressed, then you can
begin discussing details of the product design, data
migration, etc... on an hourlly basis.
Or a flat bid, if you feel confident.
Remember that you'll probably need to devote as
much time to talking with the users as you do at
actual coding. A program that does exactly what
the customer wants - no matter how sloppily it may
be coded = will get you more work than an
expertly-coded program that fails to do what
the customer wants it to do.
Regards,
Irv
