1. RE: [Off Topic??] ICQ, DLL Wrapping, Euphoria, Eu2LCC

Thomas Parslow (PatRat) wrote:
> > Me and a friend are in a bit of a disagreement. He's insane about his
> > ICQ list and database. He keeps coming up with more and more ideas for 
> > ways to save his list(and know what others in his house do with his 
> > icq). He has tried and tried to show them how to use there own icw 
> > number but his lilttle brothers are...Well there little brothers =)  
> >
> > He thinks the best way to back up a list would be to get a shell and run 
> > 
> > a icq proxy that saves all msg's to/from your icq number, That is IF 
> > there was a way to make all transfers go via the proxy. I think the best 
> > 
> > way would be to wrap the dll's and save the msg's out like that(was my 
> > first idea for backing up) Tho his bro hides what he does(hence his 
> > paranoia with his list) in a few ways, one of wich is to brute force 
> > delete the <uin>.dat/<uin>.idx files. Being that there are 
> > <uin>.tmp.idx/.dat files that only cause's him to lose all his contacts 
> > and msg's, Tho thats the whole point is to keep them. As far as i know 
> > icq used to allow a "Send/recive all messages via the server" tho i 
> > never looked into it and never heard of it working for 100% of icq's msg 
> > 
> > functions. Anyone who has ideas/coments/flames post away(url with info 
> > would be great, then ~I~ dont have to be so involved =)
> >
> >
> > Grape Vine
> > 13728824
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd suggest switching to Jabber, it's open source and it has server
> side gateways to most other IM systems (ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, MSN). It
> would be very easy to write a Jabber proxy, modify an existing
> open-source client or write your own client (that's my current project 
> atm :).
> 
> Also, Jabber is very good if you have firewall, it establishes a
> single outgoing TCP connection to the Jabber server on port 5222.
> 
> Have a look at:
> www.jabber.org
> www.jabbercentral.com
> www.jabber.com
> 
> Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483
> Rat Software
> http://www.rat-software.com/
> Please leave quoted text in place when replying
> 
> 

He loves ICQ, no chance there. Me, I perfer IRC, i only use ICQ for a 
few friends and people from the Euphoria list. 

Grape Vine
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2. RE: [Off Topic??] ICQ, DLL Wrapping, Euphoria, Eu2LCC

gertie at ad-tek.net wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2001, at 5:56, Grape Vine wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > Me and a friend are in a bit of a disagreement. He's insane about his 
> > ICQ list and database. He keeps coming up with more and more ideas for 
> > ways to save his list(and know what others in his house do with his 
> > icq). He has tried and tried to show them how to use there own icw 
> > number but his lilttle brothers are...Well there little brothers =)  
> > 
> > He thinks the best way to back up a list would be to get a shell and run 
> > 
> > a icq proxy that saves all msg's to/from your icq number, That is IF 
> > there was a way to make all transfers go via the proxy. I think the best 
> > 
> > way would be to wrap the dll's and save the msg's out like that(was my 
> > first idea for backing up) Tho his bro hides what he does(hence his 
> > paranoia with his list) in a few ways, one of wich is to brute force 
> > delete the <uin>.dat/<uin>.idx files. Being that there are 
> > <uin>.tmp.idx/.dat files that only cause's him to lose all his contacts 
> > and msg's, Tho thats the whole point is to keep them. As far as i know 
> > icq used to allow a "Send/recive all messages via the server" tho i 
> > never looked into it and never heard of it working for 100% of icq's msg 
> > 
> > functions. Anyone who has ideas/coments/flames post away(url with info 
> > would be great, then ~I~ dont have to be so involved =)
> 
> Errr,,,, ok, i stopped using icq back when aol bought it, and i had it 
> firewalled before 
> that, but anyhow,, is it still possible to tell icq the ip addresses of 
> the icq/aol servers, 
> or can you locate the code and change them to localhost? If so, you 
> could write a 
> proxy to grab everything from 127.0.0.1:ThePort, and stash it however 
> you want, then 
> automagically delete the real files then the connection is dropped. It 
> should be easy to 
> write, since you'd be transferring everything from the icq client out to 
> the server without 
> changing it, just logging it. Be sure to start the proxy before you 
> start the client, or it 
> will prolly search for the home numbers and download a new server list, 
> cause the 
> proxy hasto be there to look like the server to the client, and the 
> proxy hasto look like 
> the client to the server. In addition, you could have the proxy store 
> the userlist, 
> encrypted, and decrypt it and drop it where the icq client expects it to 
> be when it 
> is started, deleting it on shutdown. Good luck!
> 
> Kat
> 

I dont blame you. Ever since version 2000 its realy sucked(worse then 
normal). Im getting ready to go back to 99a.

Grape Vine
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