1. [Off Topic??] ICQ, DLL Wrapping, Euphoria, Eu2LCC

Me and a friend are in a bit of a disagreement. He's insane about his 
ICQ list and database. He keeps coming up with more and more ideas for 
ways to save his list(and know what others in his house do with his 
icq). He has tried and tried to show them how to use there own icw 
number but his lilttle brothers are...Well there little brothers =)  

He thinks the best way to back up a list would be to get a shell and run 
a icq proxy that saves all msg's to/from your icq number, That is IF 
there was a way to make all transfers go via the proxy. I think the best 
way would be to wrap the dll's and save the msg's out like that(was my 
first idea for backing up) Tho his bro hides what he does(hence his 
paranoia with his list) in a few ways, one of wich is to brute force 
delete the <uin>.dat/<uin>.idx files. Being that there are 
<uin>.tmp.idx/.dat files that only cause's him to lose all his contacts 
and msg's, Tho thats the whole point is to keep them. As far as i know 
icq used to allow a "Send/recive all messages via the server" tho i 
never looked into it and never heard of it working for 100% of icq's msg 
functions. Anyone who has ideas/coments/flames post away(url with info 
would be great, then ~I~ dont have to be so involved =)


Grape Vine
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2. Re: [Off Topic??] ICQ, DLL Wrapping, Euphoria, Eu2LCC

On 15 Jun 2001, at 5:56, Grape Vine wrote:


> 
> Me and a friend are in a bit of a disagreement. He's insane about his 
> ICQ list and database. He keeps coming up with more and more ideas for 
> ways to save his list(and know what others in his house do with his 
> icq). He has tried and tried to show them how to use there own icw 
> number but his lilttle brothers are...Well there little brothers =)  
> 
> He thinks the best way to back up a list would be to get a shell and run 
> a icq proxy that saves all msg's to/from your icq number, That is IF 
> there was a way to make all transfers go via the proxy. I think the best 
> way would be to wrap the dll's and save the msg's out like that(was my 
> first idea for backing up) Tho his bro hides what he does(hence his 
> paranoia with his list) in a few ways, one of wich is to brute force 
> delete the <uin>.dat/<uin>.idx files. Being that there are 
> <uin>.tmp.idx/.dat files that only cause's him to lose all his contacts 
> and msg's, Tho thats the whole point is to keep them. As far as i know 
> icq used to allow a "Send/recive all messages via the server" tho i 
> never looked into it and never heard of it working for 100% of icq's msg 
> functions. Anyone who has ideas/coments/flames post away(url with info 
> would be great, then ~I~ dont have to be so involved =)

Errr,,,, ok, i stopped using icq back when aol bought it, and i had it
firewalled before
that, but anyhow,, is it still possible to tell icq the ip addresses of the
icq/aol servers,
or can you locate the code and change them to localhost? If so, you could write
a
proxy to grab everything from 127.0.0.1:ThePort, and stash it however you want,
then
automagically delete the real files then the connection is dropped. It should be
easy to
write, since you'd be transferring everything from the icq client out to the
server without
changing it, just logging it. Be sure to start the proxy before you start the
client, or it
will prolly search for the home numbers and download a new server list, cause
the
proxy hasto be there to look like the server to the client, and the proxy hasto
look like
the client to the server. In addition, you could have the proxy store the
userlist,
encrypted, and decrypt it and drop it where the icq client expects it to be when
it
is started, deleting it on shutdown. Good luck!

Kat

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3. Re: [Off Topic??] ICQ, DLL Wrapping, Euphoria, Eu2LCC

> Me and a friend are in a bit of a disagreement. He's insane about his
> ICQ list and database. He keeps coming up with more and more ideas for 
> ways to save his list(and know what others in his house do with his 
> icq). He has tried and tried to show them how to use there own icw 
> number but his lilttle brothers are...Well there little brothers =)  
>
> He thinks the best way to back up a list would be to get a shell and run 
> a icq proxy that saves all msg's to/from your icq number, That is IF 
> there was a way to make all transfers go via the proxy. I think the best 
> way would be to wrap the dll's and save the msg's out like that(was my 
> first idea for backing up) Tho his bro hides what he does(hence his 
> paranoia with his list) in a few ways, one of wich is to brute force 
> delete the <uin>.dat/<uin>.idx files. Being that there are 
> <uin>.tmp.idx/.dat files that only cause's him to lose all his contacts 
> and msg's, Tho thats the whole point is to keep them. As far as i know 
> icq used to allow a "Send/recive all messages via the server" tho i 
> never looked into it and never heard of it working for 100% of icq's msg 
> functions. Anyone who has ideas/coments/flames post away(url with info 
> would be great, then ~I~ dont have to be so involved =)
>
>
> Grape Vine
> 13728824

Hi,

I'd suggest switching to Jabber, it's open source and it has server
side gateways to most other IM systems (ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, MSN). It
would be very easy to write a Jabber proxy, modify an existing
open-source client or write your own client (that's my current project atm :).

Also, Jabber is very good if you have firewall, it establishes a
single outgoing TCP connection to the Jabber server on port 5222.

Have a look at:
www.jabber.org
www.jabbercentral.com
www.jabber.com

Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483
Rat Software
http://www.rat-software.com/
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