1. Re: Jiri and his 'Hints'

Hi Jiri.

> How many examples do you need (ignoring the gratuitous C remark)? Just
> a couple of days ago I posted a little illustration. The pascal
> original, compiled, runs five to ten times faster and takes only about
> 8 to 15 kbytes of the precious disk space on my machine, depending on
> the compiler used. And I am not talking about some miracles, not even
> dirty tricks like in line assembly, just plain old pascal

<SNIP>

OK, I asked for that! It was a stupid comment I made and I apologise for
it. I shouldn't have implied others speed concerns aren't important. I also
shouldn't have considered my own feeble little projects to be the height
of speed requirement. Again, sorry

However .....lest I be considered a passive Euphoriphile.....

> If you want features, Mark, try something else. Xbasic, for example.

Or, conversely, if you want speed, use assembler.

For the little I do, the speed issue hasn't  been one. What I have
missed most are things like not being able to get pointers to variables,
having to do type conversions (like float--> atom and back). Having
to use memory functions to "allocate" variables when I'd rather use
a pointer to an atom. It's the peek / poke thing that Everett was so fired
up about. I guess these are the "features" I want.

I don't have the knowledge to know whether supplying a function like
varptr() when it is applied to Euphoria is too hard / impossible.
However if it IS possible, I would like to see it incorporated into the
language before we get a compiler. If we do get a Euphoria-->C
creator then it would be nice to have the whole mess of C types
available to use or not.

That said I am still a happy Euphoria user.

> It saddens me to see Robert wasting his time on 'features', on
> intricacies of database design, and similar details. All these things
> can be done, and will be done, if really required, by us, the users.

Fair enough, but there were a lot of users who replied to this list,
thanking Robert for EDS.

> things are again the way we like really them, don't we: not much more
> than David's clinic for a handful of Window$ challenged individuals.)

Ouch! That was harsh. I'm one of those Windows$ challenged
individuals and without Dr Cuny's clinic I'd be pushing up the
programming daisies.

> It's getting late, 3.15 in the morning. Good night. jiri

4:30 here.....we programmers are a sad lot!

Mark

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