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if i change my FAT to 16-bit, will this slow down computer?
how can i do this?

Has anybody any idea how can i free up some disk space?

How do i change letter of drive/cd-rom? (C,D)

thanks for any answer

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2. Re: offtopic: drivespace

Hello ©koda,

>Has anybody any idea how can i free up some disk space?

Uninstall or delete anything you don't need and/or use. :)
Graphics and sound tend to take a lot of space.

>How do i change letter of drive/cd-rom? (C,D)

I think you have to do that in the BIOS when your computer
boots up.

later,
Lewis Townsend

PS: I would ultimately suggest getting a bigger hard-drive
but I understand that they are expensive.
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3. Re: offtopic: drivespace

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "©koda" <tone.skoda at SIOL.NET>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:20 AM
> Subject: offtopic: drivespace
>
>
> i have a problem: i have no disk space on my computer (800HDD)
>
> is there any program like drivespace3 which is for 32-bit FAT, on the net?

Should be something under start/programs/accessories/system on your desktop.

> if i change my FAT to 16-bit, will this slow down computer?
> how can i do this?

I wouldn't try changing it, it's not worth the risk of losing data while the
fats are being changed. If i were you, especially if you are worried about
speed, get a bigger newer hard drive, they are faster than what you have
now, fdisk/format it to 16bit fat, and transfer the old data to the new
drive, use the old drive for slow archive. If you can't afford a new hd,
look around for older puters being scrapped, you may be able to get the hds
for $5. The older the hd is, the slower, smaller, and less reliable it will
be.

> Has anybody any idea how can i free up some disk space?

Look for Stacker disk compression software?

> How do i change letter of drive/cd-rom? (C,D)

Assuming you are using a MS OS, open a dos window and type
help subst
or
help assign

Kat

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4. Re: offtopic: drivespace

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> i have a problem: i have no disk space on my computer (800HDD)
> is there any program like drivespace3 which is for 32-bit FAT, on the
> net?
>
> if i change my FAT to 16-bit, will this slow down computer?
> how can i do this?
>
> Has anybody any idea how can i free up some disk space?

    1. Zip files that aren't used frequently.
       UnZip them when needed.
           You can Zip entire directories complete with directory
           structure.
       The following don't compress well:
           Movies (AVI, MOV, MPG), most images (GIF and JPG),
           Songs (MP3)
       Candidates: Anything that runs from DOS, Games
          Sounds types: MID, MOD and similiar, WAV, RAW, AU, VOC,
            IT, XM, S3M, STM, DSM, MED, FAR, ULT, MTM, 669
          Text sound lists: M3U, PLS, ASX
          Text of any kind: TXT, DOC, WRI

    2. Store the above types of data on removable media.
        IE: Floppy, Zip, Syquest Jet, CD-Recordable,
            CD-Read/Write, Optical Disk, Clik Disk, Tape backup

    3. Store some data online instead of on your machine.
       Internet charges may make this undesirable.

    4. Clean out unneeded data. (tough job)

    5. Get a bigger Hard drive.  (Never regretted) can be expensive.

    6. Maybe you could get a friend to burn a CD of much of your data.
        suggestively requires: Network or removal of hard drive from
        your system and put in theirs long enough to record the data.
>
> How do i change letter of drive/cd-rom? (C,D)
>
    For Windows 9x, Without using DOS drivers !!!
    Control Panel
    System
    Device Manager
    [-] CDROM
      |_(Mitsumi, whatever) CD

    Properties
    Settings
      Bottom area:
    Reserved drive letters
    Start drive letter:   [ J: [v]
    End drive letter:     [ J: [v]

    [ OK ]
    Then reboot.

> thanks for any answer


        Lucius L. Hilley III

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5. Re: offtopic: drivespace

> Look for Stacker disk compression software?

Stacker doesn't make their disk-compression software
anymore.

Mike Hurley

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6. Re: offtopic: drivespace

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hurley" <mike_hurley_2 at YAHOO.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace


> > Look for Stacker disk compression software?
>
> Stacker doesn't make their disk-compression software
> anymore.

I know that, but people still have it, and some still use it.

Kat

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7. Re: offtopic: drivespace

stacker was included with DR-Dos 7, which was distributed (free) by caldera.
I think it is available at their site.

-- just searched: it is at www.lineo.com/products/downloads (about 6 megs)

Riwal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kat [SMTP:gertie at ZEBRA.NET]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:01 PM
> To:   EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject:      Re: offtopic: drivespace
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hurley" <mike_hurley_2 at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace
>
>
> > > Look for Stacker disk compression software?
> >
> > Stacker doesn't make their disk-compression software
> > anymore.
>
> I know that, but people still have it, and some still use it.
>
> Kat

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8. Re: offtopic: drivespace

Bad url, try:

http://www.lineo.com/products/download.html

As a bit of side info, i seem to remember MS bought some rights to Stacker,
MS did Stacker wrong and the contract was canceled, Stacker sued, and MS had
to change either Drivespace or Doublespace. I stayed with Stacker untill i
could get one gig and bigger drives. I think i recall seeing "Stacker" in
one of the .com or .exe files in MS-DOS5 or 6, back when i was hacking dos
internals.

Kat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raude Riwal" <RAUDER at THMULTI.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace


> stacker was included with DR-Dos 7, which was distributed (free) by
caldera.
> I think it is available at their site.
>
> -- just searched: it is at www.lineo.com/products/downloads (about 6 megs)
>
> Riwal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kat [SMTP:gertie at ZEBRA.NET]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:01 PM
> > To:   EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: offtopic: drivespace
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Hurley" <mike_hurley_2 at YAHOO.COM>
> > To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace
> >
> >
> > > > Look for Stacker disk compression software?
> > >
> > > Stacker doesn't make their disk-compression software
> > > anymore.
> >
> > I know that, but people still have it, and some still use it.
> >
> > Kat
>

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9. Re: offtopic: drivespace

> From: Kat [SMTP:gertie at ZEBRA.NET]

> Bad url, try:

>http://www.lineo.com/products/download.html

>As a bit of side info, i seem to remember MS bought some rights to Stacker,
>MS did Stacker wrong and the contract was canceled, Stacker sued, and MS
had
>to change either Drivespace or Doublespace. I stayed with Stacker untill i
>could get one gig and bigger drives. I think i recall seeing "Stacker" in
>one of the .com or .exe files in MS-DOS5 or 6, back when i was hacking dos
>internals.

true. they included their own 'stacker' in dos 6.0 called doublespace; and
they were forced to change parts of it. this is why they released dos 6.2
with drivespace in place of doublespace.
In DR-Dos it is the true licensed original stacker. (but don't ask me the
version, I don't know)

Riwal

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10. Re: offtopic: drivespace

I remember when I used to use IBM's PC-DOC 7.0 that it
came with Stacker 4.0.  I remembered I tried to get
tech support and they didn't make Stacker anymore,
with the last version being either that or 5.0.

Mike Hurley

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11. Re: offtopic: drivespace

Where can i get this Stacker?

----- Original Message -----
From: Kat <gertie at ZEBRA.NET>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hurley" <mike_hurley_2 at YAHOO.COM>
> To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace
>
>
> > > Look for Stacker disk compression software?
> >
> > Stacker doesn't make their disk-compression software
> > anymore.
>
> I know that, but people still have it, and some still use it.
>
> Kat

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12. Re: offtopic: drivespace

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raude Riwal" <RAUDER at THMULTI.COM>
To: <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: offtopic: drivespace


> > From: Kat [SMTP:gertie at ZEBRA.NET]
>
> > Bad url, try:
>
> >http://www.lineo.com/products/download.html
>
> >As a bit of side info, i seem to remember MS bought some rights to
Stacker,
> >MS did Stacker wrong and the contract was canceled, Stacker sued, and MS
> had
> >to change either Drivespace or Doublespace. I stayed with Stacker untill
i
> >could get one gig and bigger drives. I think i recall seeing "Stacker" in
> >one of the .com or .exe files in MS-DOS5 or 6, back when i was hacking
dos
> >internals.
>
> true. they included their own 'stacker' in dos 6.0 called doublespace; and
> they were forced to change parts of it. this is why they released dos 6.2
> with drivespace in place of doublespace.
> In DR-Dos it is the true licensed original stacker. (but don't ask me the
> version, I don't know)

Here is the skinny from Stac, after the lawsuit:
In June of 1994, Stac and Micro$oft reached an agreement to share the Stac
patents for any new technology, and MS agreed to purchase $39.9 million
worth of Stac stock and pay Stac $1million per month for the right to use
Stac in MS's Doublespace.

As usual, after MS gets their sights set on someone, that someone is out of
business.

MS's defrag tools for their versions didn't work right on the real Stacked
drives, and you should use the Stac toolbox's defrag on the stacked drives.
The last book i have on Stacker is dated 1995, it's for Multimedia Stacker,
running any DOS5+ and therefore win3.xx also.

Kat

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