1. 8k. the system handled 24 concurrent users

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Thats funny,
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25 years before your >>8k. system handled 24 concurrent users<< today =
this WINDOWS-System with 200 MB RAM has trouble handling ONE user smile.
So what will be in 25 years ? We will have multiple Systems each one =
with 24 Processors and they will not be enough for 1 user ...
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Another out-of-topic thing: The Computers needed 25 years to rech the =
first GHz (1 GHz-PC).
The next GHz will be in range in 1 Year.
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Have fun
--Theo
http://theogott.de <http://theogott.de>=20
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ok - I'll make a total fool of myself with my first computer - in high =
school i had access to a PDP 8 at the college. it ran solely on tape =
drive and paper tape. programs could not exceed 8k. the system handled =
24 concurrent users. what is truly scary is this was only 25 years ago. =
NOT that long ago. I'm only 40 - hardly dead. At this rate of growth i =
can't even imagine what we will have in another 25 years.

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2. Re: 8k. the system handled 24 concurrent users

On 21 Mar 2001, at 22:50, T.Gottwald at DEUTSCHEPOST.DE wrote:

> Thats funny,
> 
> 25 years before your >>8k. system handled 24 concurrent users<< today this
> WINDOWS-System with 200 MB RAM has trouble handling ONE user smile. So what will
> be in 25 years ? We will have multiple Systems each one with 24 Processors and
> they will not be enough for 1 user ...

I tend to agree, with the caveat that what that one user expects out of the 
machine will be vastly more than what 25 users expect today. I still say 
more processors is the way to go. Rather than buying mainframes, some hi-
end users are now buying generic desktop PCs with linux and forming 
clusters that outrun the mainframes, at fractions of the cost. For the cost of 
one new 1.1Ghz processor, you can buy 4 complete working puters in the 
600Mhz range. When i got proficient with the C64 (the vic 20 and ZX80 
weren't up to it, imho), i came soooo close to doing a cluster of C64's,, since 
i had the floppy drive running my programs too. smile
 
> Another out-of-topic thing: The Computers needed 25 years to rech the first
> GHz
> (1 GHz-PC). The next GHz will be in range in 1 Year.

/me looks at the (w)reched computer industry. Probably not, line geometries 
are appoaching the limits of physics to move electrons properly. For some 
tasks, optical puters might work better. Remember the old dual processor 
chips, and the way processors now are not only pipelined, but paralleled 
internally, so in effect, you may not know if you are using a multiprocessor 
puter now. And clock speed isn't everything, the 6502 and the 6800 could 
outrun a 8mhz 8080 in getting the job done.  
 
> Have fun

You too!
Kat

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3. Re: 8k. the system handled 24 concurrent users

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, T.Gottwald at DEUTSCHEPOST.DE wrote:

> Thats funny,
>  
> 25 years before your 8k. system handled 24 concurrent users
< today this WINDOWS-System with 200 MB RAM has trouble handling ONE user smile.
> So what will be in 25 years ? We will have multiple Systems each one with 
>24 Processors and they will not be enough for 1 user ...

Yes - thanks mainly to Micro$oft and its "innovations", we will soon have 
computers that will do nothing at all (but do it _really_ fast!)
-- 
Regards,
Irv

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