1. Cross Platform GUI
- Posted by Derek Parnell <ddparnell at bigpond.com>
Mar 20, 2001
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Last edited Mar 21, 2001
Here is a link that might interest a few.
http://www.mainsoft.com/products/mainwin_sysreq.html
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cheers,
Derek Parnell
2. Re: Cross Platform GUI
- Posted by David Cuny <dcuny at LANSET.COM>
Mar 20, 2001
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Last edited Mar 21, 2001
Derek Parnell wrote:
> Here is a link that might interest a few.
>
> http://www.mainsoft.com/products/mainwin_sysreq.html
I'm a bit leery of these sorts of things. Windows applications aren't
designed to be portable, so you pretty much have to drag the entire
environment along with you. Then again, if Robert is going to shell out for
this, more power to him. 
A cheaper option is to link Euphoria to WineLib, or simply run on Linux
under Wine:
http://www.winehq.com
It's been a number of months since I've tried this, but it worked pretty
well at the time, and Wine just keeps getting better and better. Win32Lib
has a good chance of working well, because it only uses well documented
routines. Then again, it's currently limited to x86 machines.
You could go the other route and write a Euphoria library linked to GTK.
There's a Windows port of GTK+ available:
http://user.sgic.fi/~tml/gimp/win32/
It works, but the result is invariably an application that ported, and out
of place.
Some toolkits, like Qt and ZooLib, try to make up for this by drawing their
own controls. But I think the most successful libraries are those that are
designed from the start to be cross-platform, such as Zinc:
http://www.zinc.com
or V:
http://www.objectcentral.com/vgui/vgui.htm
or my personal favorite, wxWindows:
http://www.wxwindows.org
There's a list of plenty more GUI toolkits at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7184/guitool.html
-- David Cuny
3. Re: Cross Platform GUI
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Hola, David Cuny escribi=F3 el 21/03/2001 12:21:28 a.m.:
>or my personal favorite, wxWindows:
>
> http://www.wxwindows.org
>
>There's a list of plenty more GUI toolkits at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7184/guitool.html
>
>-- David Cuny
Just a little bit curious, What do you think of fox =3F I compiled it with
BCC and it looks really good to me (of course not knowing much of the other
toolkits). Do you think its easy or doable to write a wrapper in Eu=3F
Hasta pronto,
Fabio
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Fabio Ramirez R.
Administrador de Redes - CSI
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4. Re: Cross Platform GUI
Fabio Ramirez wrote:
>Just a little bit curious, What do you think of fox?
I haven't actually used it, so take this with a grain of salt!
When I looked at it a while back, I was under the impression that the
Windows port was more theoretical than actual. They've done a nice job in
moving that to reality.
It reminds me a lot of the FLTK library:
http://www.fltk.org/
While my preference is for a toolkit that uses native widgets, both FOX and
FLTK appear to be very nice toolkits that provide a great deal of
functionality.
-- David Cuny
5. Re: Cross Platform GUI
Hmmm...
About Eu to Java...
What would be nice would be some instructions on which
compilers to download (and where), and how to create
web applets (like I code this game in Eu, translate it
to Java, and want it to run on my website).
That's about the only use I see for it, as the speed
is not that good (yet).
Maybe you (David) didn't have to use Rob's technique
of translating, but Rob yours.
Yours was faster than this new Be Like Rob
implementation.
Mike The Spike
--- Fabio Ramirez <faramire at nemo.univalle.edu.co>
wrote:
>
>
> is
> designed to remove that pain from your brain.
> Just what the doctor ordered.
> http://click.topica.com/aaabDpb1dd66b2pxvYa/register
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>
> Hola, David Cuny escribió el 21/03/2001 12:21:28
> a.m.:
>
> >or my personal favorite, wxWindows:
> >
> > http://www.wxwindows.org
> >
> >There's a list of plenty more GUI toolkits at:
> >
> >
>
> >
> >-- David Cuny
>
> Just a little bit curious, What do you think of fox
> ? I compiled it with
> BCC and it looks really good to me (of course not
> knowing much of the other
> toolkits). Do you think its easy or doable to write
> a wrapper in Eu?
>
> Hasta pronto,
>
> Fabio
>
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> Fabio Ramirez R.
> Administrador de Redes - CSI
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>
>
>
6. Re: Cross Platform GUI
MTS wrote:
>About Eu to Java...
>What would be nice would be some instructions on which compilers to
>download (and where)
I just use the standard Sun distribution.
>and how to create web applets (like I code this game in Eu, translate it to
>Java, and want it to run on my website).
I'll consider into making that an option.
>That's about the only use I see for it, as the speed is not that good
>(yet).
I don't think the speed will be competitive - ever. But it should be fast
enough for some applications. I'm not actively working on it, although Mic
has been making some additions.
If anyone is interested in maintaining/adding features, let me know. The
core code is about 90% complete. The Win32Lib code is about 2% complete.
>Yours was faster than this new Be Like Rob implementation.
Hrm? Most of the good ideas of the translator came from Robert's coding of
EC.
-- David Cuny
