1. Mr. Packard

I have noticed that several of the people subscribed to
this list are writing programs.  I don't think the have much
else to do with their time.  I feel they see a lack of
conversation on the list and feel that they MUST speak.
Even if that talk is doing no one any good.

Many of the people on this list are a wonderful help.
Some may be hypocritical. The good advice is needed
even from the lame.  Any help we can get is needed.
My personal feelings are that if they don't like your
message then they should keep their mouths shut.
IN THIS CASE THEIR KEYBOARDS IDLE.

Anyone that doesn't like someone elses messages
should keep it to themselves.  It's one thing to receive
one letter saying I think your message is asking for
a fraudulent count on your page.  We don't need
a bunch of wimps chiming in and ganging up on a
fellow EUPHORIAN.  This kind of cascade is totally
uncalled for.

I would everyone elses feelings on this but that is
called polling and is ALSO inappropriate. (bad behavior)

I believe that enough has been said about this matter.
I think this subject should be dropped now.
AND I don't won't any I AGREES following my message.
that will only continue this subject.

ROBERT, You maintain this list and I appreciate the service.
I would like your feelings on what I have said here.
You maintain this list and if you so wanted to could
discontinue anyone or the WHOLE list.
I am sure that you won't because you like I, have a respect
for what is right despite peoples behaviors.

I know enough destroy computers if someone ticks me off.
I don't and won't do it though because I respect computers.
I would do that to a person as far as their anguish But I
wouldn't do that to their computer.  I don't think the computer
should be harmed because of its owners actions.

I think I will get off my soap box now.

        Sincerely
--Lucius Lamar Hilley III
--  E-mail at luciuslhilleyiii at juno.com

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2. Mr. Packard

Lucius L. Hilley writes:
> ROBERT, You maintain this list and I appreciate the service.
> I would like your feelings on what I have said here.
> You maintain this list and if you so wanted to could
> discontinue anyone or the WHOLE list.

I don't maintain this list. John Kinne set it up on his own initiative
and he is the list owner. I can't just click
my mouse and terminate anyone, or the list as a whole.

I greatly appreciate this list as a way for
Euphoria programmers to exchange ideas, code etc.

I would remind people to be careful when directing humour at
someone else. What you consider to be cute, can often be taken
as a vicious personal assault by the recipient. People can't
observe your facial expression, body language, intonation etc.

Mr. Packard has made major contributions to the development and
promotion of Euphoria, as well as writing some nifty games,
and I hope he'll stick around.

I don't mind at all if he posts updates on what he
is doing, even if they seem to be commercial in nature.
On the Net in general, it is considered a provocation worthy of
flaming when someone posts messages designed to make a buck for their
company. Things are different here. This is a small, focussed group.
No one can make much money posting an advertisement to 190 people.
It won't be a persistent problem that we have to be defensive about.

I would welcome anyone who has written a shareware program in Euphoria,
or has something else to sell that is Euphoria-specific,
to tell us about it. As long as someone doesn't post a big advertisement
every day I don't see any harm in it.

Many people are writing and donating code for free,
and we have all benefitted from those people. For some others, like
Michael, and myself, it has become more than a hobby. We actually
need to make some money to sustain our level of effort over the long term.
I'm sure that Michael is working very long hours for very low pay.
He deserves our support.


Regards,
  Rob Craig
  Rapid Deployment Software

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