1. rob'e new pages

I just saw Rob's new Euphoria pages. The layout is great, but the colors are
hideous - bright teal and rose, with pinstripe. They seem to be designed for
maximum illegibility...

 -- David Cuny

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2. rob'e new pages

David Cuny writes:
> I just saw Rob's new Euphoria pages. The layout is great, but the colors are
> hideous - bright teal and rose, with pinstripe. They seem to be designed for
> maximum illegibility...

Junko built the new site. I really like it, although from the
color-scheme you can tell that a woman designed it. smile

Seriously though, we had some undesirable "pinstriping" effect
that we thought we had gotten rid of, at least for Netscape
and MS IE. We found that if you don't choose a good RGB mix for your colors,
browsers will show a mix of adjacent colors, depending on what
browser options you have set.
(I believe "dithering" is the word I'm looking for).

What browser are you using, and on what machine, or O/S?

How many other people are seeing vertical pinstriping instead
of solid background colors?

Anyone using the pathetic built-in browser on AOL should
set preferences to "uncompressed images".

Regards,
  Rob Craig
  Rapid Deployment Software

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3. Re: rob'e new pages

I'll put in my two bits on this...
> Seriously though, we had some undesirable "pinstriping" effect
> that we thought we had gotten rid of, at least for Netscape
> and MS IE. We found that if you don't choose a good RGB mix for your colors,
> browsers will show a mix of adjacent colors, depending on what
> browser options you have set.
> (I believe "dithering" is the word I'm looking for).
>
> What browser are you using, and on what machine, or O/S?

Netscape 3.0; 386SX; Win 3.1

> How many other people are seeing vertical pinstriping instead
> of solid background colors?

I haven't checked yet, but with my 16 color display I know there'll
be dithering and pinstriping. A note to those with pages: Try to use
only the basic 16 colors. Not everyone has a display with 16.25
million colors and a lot of color combos are hard to read with 16
colors.

~~>Joseph Martin
~~>E-mail:  joe at cyber-wizard.com
~~>URL: http://users.exis.net/~jam/

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4. Re: rob'e new pages

Robert Craig wrote:

> How many other people are seeing vertical pinstriping instead
> of solid background colors?

        I don't see printstriping, but the yellow "explosion" on the
Euphoria logo (top of the page) is seen dithered, which didn't occur
before.
        My settings:
        486dx2/66
        8 Ram
        Win95
        Netscape 2.02 Gold
        800x600 with 16 bit colors


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5. Re: rob'e new pages

Robert Craig wrote:

> How many other people are seeing vertical pinstriping instead
> of solid background colors?

        I don't see printstriping, but the yellow "explosion" on the
Euphoria logo (top of the page) is seen dithered, which didn't occur
before.
        My settings:
        486dx2/66
        8 Ram
        Win95
        Netscape 2.02 Gold
        800x600 with 16 bit colors


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6. Re: rob'e new pages

Robert Craig wrote:
>What browser are you using, and on what machine, or O/S?

Netscape 3.0 for Windows 3.1

>How many other people are seeing vertical pinstriping instead
>of solid background colors?

I'm not certain I know what pinstriping is, so it's probably not there, but I do
think that the purple and hot pink colors are almost hideous, but not to the
same extent that others seem to see it.  (matter of oppinion or different
browsers?--I don't know.)

But that brings up something else:  I recently created a Euphoria web site at
I'm not certain how it looks with other browsers on different machines.  So if
it looks bad with your browser, please let me know at silverlaser at HoTMail.com
and I'll try to fix the problem.  (I'm also looking for some more good code to
put on the page.)  Thanks.

Joshua Milligan
silverlaser at HoTMail.com


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7. Re: rob'e new pages

Rob Craig replied:

> Seriously though, we had some undesirable "pinstriping" effect
> that we thought we had gotten rid of, at least for Netscape
> and MS IE.

It was fixed this morning. I e-mailed the comment Friday at 5:00. I don't
know why my e-mail is so sloooow...

The layout is much nicer than the old version.

 -- David Cuny

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8. Re: rob'e new pages

> What browser are you using, and on what machine, or O/S?

netscape navigator pre-release 4
dual processor pentium pro 200
96 mb ram
win nt 4
1280x1024 @ 16.7 million

i dunno it looks fine to me (altho looking over my system specs i'm
not surprised...heh) altho i must say i have a certain loathing of
hot pink and purple



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9. Re: rob'e new pages

Architek wrote:

>         I don't see printstriping, but the yellow "explosion" on the
> Euphoria logo (top of the page) is seen dithered, which didn't occur
> before.

That is because the Euphoria logo has transparent codes in it, so the
purple and pink of the background bleeds through.  You couldn't see this
on the old pages because the background was white, and blended well with
the explosion.  Notice how on the purple side of the stripe, the color
that bleeds through the explosion is purple, and on the pink side, pink
bleeds through.  even that little dark line is visible through the
explosion.

I still think those animated star trek ship things should go.  Pardon my
lameness - a programmer who's not into sci-fi.  seems to be much of a
cliche if you ask me..  it's not the ship or what it means - it's the
fact that not everybody views Windows in 1024x768 graphics mode..

If you scroll the page to the right far enough, you can see the
background stripe begin again (my guess is that the background was drawn
at 800x600 and the animated star trek ship is drawn in 1024x768)  btw -
i'm viewing the page in 640x480 mode.

Lastly - Pink/Purple are not my favorite colors.  ;)  If you want people
to read the information on the pages, you should not give them
headaches, unless your ultimate goal in life is to give people
headaches.  Colors easy on the eyes should be used for the background.
Other than that, the page layout is very good.

Just some constructive criticism from a fellow HTML designer..  Hope
this helps.
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     - MiD ( mrunner at webaccess.net )
       HTML designer extraordinaire

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