1. Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
I have installed Euphoria 2.1 for Linux on my machine, but have not been
able to run any of the demos. I assume that the problem must be in my
"profile" file so I am copying it here in case there is a syntax error.
Any help will be appreciated.
Also, Greg, I am interested in your DOSLINUX CD proposal. I have
thought that the archive has grown to such a point that it might be nice
to see it on CD. What would it take to get Walnut Creek to distribute
it? :)
Ken Rhodes
2. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> I have installed Euphoria 2.1 for Linux on my machine, but have not been
> able to run any of the demos. I assume that the problem must be in my
> "profile" file so I am copying it here in case there is a syntax error.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Ken Rhodes
Hi, Ken,
I couldn't find an attachment, so here's my .bash_profile (which works ok)
EUDIR=/home/irv/euphoria
PATH=/home/irv/euphoria/bin:$PATH
export PATH EUDIR
echo -e "\\033(U"
Please note that this assumes you are using bash for your shell. There are
others, ash, csh, etc. Some use slightly different syntax, and most don't pay
any attention to .bash_profile, but instead have their own init. files.
Regards,
Irv
3. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator wrote:
> I have installed Euphoria 2.1 for Linux on my machine, but have not been
> able to run any of the demos. I assume that the problem must be in my
> "profile" file so I am copying it here in case there is a syntax error.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Also, Greg, I am interested in your DOSLINUX CD proposal. I have
> thought that the archive has grown to such a point that it might be nice
> to see it on CD. What would it take to get Walnut Creek to distribute
> it? :)
>
I could also offer that as well, but I'd probably have to discuss it with
Rob first.
>
> Ken Rhodes
4. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
Irv Mullins wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > I have installed Euphoria 2.1 for Linux on my machine, but have not been
> > able to run any of the demos. I assume that the problem must be in my
> > "profile" file so I am copying it here in case there is a syntax error.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > Ken Rhodes
>
> Hi, Ken,
> I couldn't find an attachment, so here's my .bash_profile (which works ok)
>
> EUDIR=/home/irv/euphoria
> PATH=/home/irv/euphoria/bin:$PATH
> export PATH EUDIR
> echo -e "\\033(U"
>
> Please note that this assumes you are using bash for your shell. There are
> others, ash, csh, etc. Some use slightly different syntax, and most don't pay
> any attention to .bash_profile, but instead have their own init. files.
>
> Regards,
> Irv
Thanks for your response, Irv. The ".profile" file was not included in the
post because I couldn't copy from the KDE desktop editor to Netscape. It
appears I have have been spoiled by Windows environment. For a number of
reasons I have chosen to abandon MS completely and I am now running a pure Linux
system. There was method to my madness, I knew there would be a learning
curve..... But it has been pretty tough.
The Caldera Manual says that bash is the default shell. However, something must
be wrong because I have edited " .profile" according to the installation
instructions and your examples to no avail.
I think at this point I should follow some advise that you (Irv) gave early on
... and buy a good Linux manual.... and probably one for KDE to boot (pun
intended).
I don't know if in the process of configuring a connection to the internet I
have gummed up my settings. My local ISP tech told me he didn't think I could
access the net thru them via Linux. (so much for the level of expertise in S.
E. Georgia!!). But this also speaks to the total dominance of MS in the
industry.
Which brings me to another observation .... in regard to the Linux version of
EE -- again I could not drag the the link to the KDE desktop from Netscape and
clicking on it seems to extract it (garbled text) to a page in my Netscape
Browser. This of course does not matter now, since I have not yet been able to
run euphoria... but, is there a more Linux friendly way to download the file?
Also, I have yet to be able to install the dos version of Euphoria. I have dos
pkunzip on a MS DOS / Windows disk, but when it is not recognized by DR DOS 7.3
-- I think that I must somehow unmount the disk in Linux before I run the DOS
session and then remount it afterward. I do remember a posting regarding
transfer of DOS euphoria files to a Linux DOS session, but have yet been able to
locate via the listserv web page search.
So now.... what are the best books on Linux, KDE, and DR DOS? :) :) thanks
for the information.
I will persevere.
Ken
5. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
Ken wrote:
> For a number of reasons I have chosen to abandon
> MS completely and I am now running a pure Linux
>system
I'm curious to know if anyone has gotten Euphoria/Win32 to run under Wine.
Most of my development these days in in Win32, and it would be good
incentive to work under Linux more _if_ I could do Win32 development there
as well. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes to Linux, and
haven't been able to figure the thing out myself. 
-- David Cuny
6. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
- Posted by Irv Mullins <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
Jul 29, 1999
-
Last edited Jul 30, 1999
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Thanks for your response, Irv. The ".profile" file was not included in the
> post because I couldn't copy from the KDE desktop editor to Netscape. It
> appears I have have been spoiled by Windows environment. For a number of
> reasons I have chosen to abandon MS completely and I am now running a pure
> Linux
> system. There was method to my madness, I knew there would be a learning
> curve..... But it has been pretty tough.
There is a "profile" file, in /etc, but that's not the one you want. The one
you are interested in is in your local (user) home directory - generally
/home/ken/.bash_profile (note the dot before the b) It is a "hidden" file, so
the only way you can see it is to type ls -a (the -a says show hidden files)
With KDM, you can select "show hidden files" from the "View" menu.
I no longer use Netscape - but I think you just click on a blank space and
hit the middle mouse button to paste.
> The Caldera Manual says that bash is the default shell. However, something
> must
> be wrong because I have edited " .profile" according to the installation
> instructions and your examples to no avail.
>
> I think at this point I should follow some advise that you (Irv) gave early on
> ... and buy a good Linux manual.... and probably one for KDE to boot (pun
> iintended).
Couldn't hurt. But it's not impossible to learn without one. I did. Just
recently I bought a copy of Linux Programmer's Reference by Richard Petersen
(Osborne) which is a good starter book. Covers bash, tcsh, zsh, gcc, make,
Perl, Tcl, Tk, TeX and LaTex.
> I don't know if in the process of configuring a connection to the internet I
> have gummed up my settings. My local ISP tech told me he didn't think I
could > access the net thru them via Linux. (so much for the level of
expertise in S. E. Georgia!!). But this also speaks to the total dominance
of MS in the > industry. > > Which brings me to another observation .... in
regard to the Linux version of > EE -- again I could not drag the the link to
the KDE desktop from Netscape and > clicking on it seems to extract it (garbled
text) to a page in my Netscape > Browser. This of course does not matter now,
since I have not yet been able to > run euphoria... but, is there a more Linux
friendly way to download the file? >
Yes (and get rid of netscape) the KDE desktop IS a web browser. Just
right-click on the desktop, select "execute command", type in
http://members.aol.com/fileseu, hit enter, and there you are. (You can type in
ftp addresses, also) Left click (and hold) on a file, drag it to the desktop,
and release the mouse button. You'll get a little menu "copy", "link"... etc.
Click "copy" and sit back while the file downloads. Once it is on the desktop,
click the icon, and ark (the archive program) will open it and let you browse,
read files, or extract the package to the directory of your choice.
> Also, I have yet to be able to install the dos version of Euphoria. I have
dos > pkunzip on a MS DOS / Windows disk, but when it is not recognized by DR
DOS 7.3 > -- I think that I must somehow unmount the disk in Linux before I
run the DOS > session and then remount it afterward. I do remember a posting
regarding > transfer of DOS euphoria files to a Linux DOS session, but have yet
been able to > locate via the listserv web page search. >
Eh? DOS formatted disks (hard or floppy) can be read and wriiten by Linux, but
when Linux isn't running, they're still DOS disks. If you have read/write
permission to the DOS directory, you can just drag and drop files at will, as
long as you're running Linux. Unfortunately, DOS can't read or write to Linux
files, disks or partitions. Are you sure the disk was formatted for DOS?
Someone else will have to tell you if Euphoria and DR DOS are compatible -
I haven't tried DR DOS.
> So now.... what are the best books on Linux, KDE, and DR DOS? :) :)
thanks > for the information. >
> I will persevere.
>
> Ken
7. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
- Posted by Irv Mullins <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
Jul 29, 1999
-
Last edited Jul 30, 1999
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>
> > For a number of reasons I have chosen to abandon
> > MS completely and I am now running a pure Linux
> >system
>
> I'm curious to know if anyone has gotten Euphoria/Win32 to run under Wine.
> Most of my development these days in in Win32, and it would be good
> incentive to work under Linux more _if_ I could do Win32 development there
> as well. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes to Linux, and
> haven't been able to figure the thing out myself.
There are a lot of Windows programs that will run under WINE (a Windows
"emulator") and many more that won't. I haven't been tempted to try WINE (the
emulator, that is), because it is easier and more reliable to just reboot into
Windows.
From everything I hear, it would not be a good idea to try to develop
Windows programs under the influence of WINE. You'd never be sure whether the
errors were yours, Windows, or WINE's.
Irv
8. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
- Posted by Robert Craig <rds at ATTCANADA.NET>
Jul 29, 1999
-
Last edited Jul 30, 1999
Ken Rhodes writes:
> Also, Greg, I am interested in your DOSLINUX CD proposal.
> I have thought that the archive has grown to such a point that
> it might be nice to see it on CD. What would it take to get
> Walnut Creek to distribute it? :)
Greg Phillips writes:
> I could also offer that as well, but I'd probably have to discuss
> it with Rob first.
I have no objection to someone distributing the
Public Domain Edition of Euphoria for DOS, Windows
or Linux, either separately, or in a bundle. (Just be sure not
to distribute any Complete Edition files.)
Nor do I have any objection to someone distributing
the Euphoria Recent User or Archive files on a CD.
I hope none of the contributors has any objection.
I don't see why they would. You wouldn't be able to charge
a huge amount for a CD since the files are freely available
from our site, but it would be a convenience for people
who have slow or expensive Internet connections.
Regards,
Rob Craig
Rapid Deployment Software
http://members.aol.com/FilesEu/
9. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <bwryan at PCOM.NET>
Jul 29, 1999
-
Last edited Jul 30, 1999
Some files have a copyright notice in them like win32lib.ew, etc.
10. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
WOW ! KDE is a nice little browser. I think I am gonna like Linux once I get
my
sea legs. Thanks for the help guys....
Ken Rhodes
11. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
> I have no objection to someone distributing the
> Public Domain Edition of Euphoria for DOS, Windows
> or Linux, either separately, or in a bundle. (Just be sure not
> to distribute any Complete Edition files.)
> Nor do I have any objection to someone distributing
> the Euphoria Recent User or Archive files on a CD.
> I hope none of the contributors has any objection.
> I don't see why they would. You wouldn't be able to charge
> a huge amount for a CD since the files are freely available
> from our site, but it would be a convenience for people
> who have slow or expensive Internet connections.
Greg, if you are going to make a special cdrom with some linux package, and
setup tools that help me get it working, and working with Eu, that you
already have you first order. This does mean, not just put some distro and
eu on it. A special version which automatically installs Eu as well, etc.
(A distro where Eu is part of as well)
Ralf N.
12. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
Ralf,
What you're asking for is exactly what I'm hoping to be able to do. I'm
planning on putting Eu into the distribution, so as soon as you install
DosLinux, Eu is installed with it.
I'm putting up a website, about DosLinux, and about the CD. I'm currently
trying to contact Kent Robotti, the developer of DosLinux, to make sure I'm
even allowed to be distributing it.
Anyways, I'll keep you updated,
Greg Phillips
Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
> > I have no objection to someone distributing the
> > Public Domain Edition of Euphoria for DOS, Windows
> > or Linux, either separately, or in a bundle. (Just be sure not
> > to distribute any Complete Edition files.)
> > Nor do I have any objection to someone distributing
> > the Euphoria Recent User or Archive files on a CD.
> > I hope none of the contributors has any objection.
> > I don't see why they would. You wouldn't be able to charge
> > a huge amount for a CD since the files are freely available
> > from our site, but it would be a convenience for people
> > who have slow or expensive Internet connections.
>
> Greg, if you are going to make a special cdrom with some linux package, and
> setup tools that help me get it working, and working with Eu, that you
> already have you first order. This does mean, not just put some distro and
> eu on it. A special version which automatically installs Eu as well, etc.
>
> (A distro where Eu is part of as well)
>
> Ralf N.
13. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Ralf,
> What you're asking for is exactly what I'm hoping to be able to do. I'm
> planning on putting Eu into the distribution, so as soon as you install
> DosLinux, Eu is installed with it.
>
Ralf wrote:
> > Greg, if you are going to make a special cdrom with some linux package, and
> > setup tools that help me get it working, and working with Eu, that you
> > already have you first order. This does mean, not just put some distro and
> > eu on it. A special version which automatically installs Eu as well, etc.
Good points. A very simple installation with an easy-to-use programming
language would be great. I think you should go slowly on this until Euphoria
supports graphics, however. Otherwise, it will be a disappointment to new users.
Regards,
Irv
14. Re: Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 --- Euphoria Installation Problems
Yes, I'm going to wait until Eu gets out of the pre-alpha stage. Or at least
make
is a snap to be able to install new versions as they come out.
Greg Phillips
Irv Mullins wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > Ralf,
> > What you're asking for is exactly what I'm hoping to be able to do. I'm
> > planning on putting Eu into the distribution, so as soon as you install
> > DosLinux, Eu is installed with it.
> >
> Ralf wrote:
> > > Greg, if you are going to make a special cdrom with some linux package,
> > > and
> > > setup tools that help me get it working, and working with Eu, that you
> > > already have you first order. This does mean, not just put some distro
> > > and
> > > eu on it. A special version which automatically installs Eu as well, etc.
>
> Good points. A very simple installation with an easy-to-use programming
> language would be great. I think you should go slowly on this until Euphoria
> supports graphics, however. Otherwise, it will be a disappointment to new
> users.
>
> Regards,
> Irv
