1. QNX Euphoria?
Here's a chance for Euphoria to be *really* be on the bleeding edge.
Yesterday, QNX announced that it would soon be releasing a new operating
system, built over the last seven months in alliance with Amiga. Don't let
the 'Amiga' throw you - the operating system runs on x86 machines. Screen
shots of the operating system are included, and it looks like a *very* cool
mix of QNX, the BeOS and iMac. See:
http://www.qnx.com/amiga/
Later that day, Amiga announced that they had chosen instead to use Linux as
their primary kernel for the new operating system:
http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html
The reason for this appears to that hardware manufacturers won't create
drivers for the operating system. The BeOS has struggled with similar
problems. So Amiga jumped ship to a kernel that already supported the
drivers.
That left the QNX folk in a bit of a lurch - the beta release was just
around the corner! Given the amount of time, effort and money they had put
into developing the operating system, they decided to release the operating
system on their own. They are offering a free copy of the OS and a full set
of development tools to interested developers.
I suggest that Robert and Pete consider themselves "interested developers".
-- David Cuny
2. Re: QNX Euphoria?
I think back in the old days of CPM they had a multiuser OS( maybe that was
a different company ). I think there OS's are now used in embeded custom
systems. Are they being used by any high volume manufacture's of hardware ?
3. Re: QNX Euphoria?
At 03:47 PM 7/9/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Here's a chance for Euphoria to be *really* be on the bleeding edge.
>
>Yesterday, QNX announced that it would soon be releasing a new operating
>system, built over the last seven months in alliance with Amiga. Don't let
>the 'Amiga' throw you - the operating system runs on x86 machines. Screen
>shots of the operating system are included, and it looks like a *very* cool
>mix of QNX, the BeOS and iMac. See:
>
> http://www.qnx.com/amiga/
I realise I've not had enough experience at all to know quite where my
standing should be on this, plus other facts etc, but I always liked
Workbench for the Amiga, and never had any problems with it.. the best part
I think is that it fit onto a 740k floppy disk (I think, I can't remember
using double-sided ones, but it was quite awhile ago) and didn't ever decide
just to stop working like other certain OS's which I won't mention.. :)
J.
4. Re: QNX Euphoria?
Bernie Ryan wrote:
<snip>
They have fairly extensive information on their web site:
www.qnx.com
-- David Cuny
5. Re: QNX Euphoria?
Amiga used 880k Double-density diskettes. QNX actually runs on a lot of
processors, but the Amiga development system runs on x86. The new Amiga is
supposed to have an as-yet to be disclosed processor *not* x86.
Pretty cool, actually.
-----Original Message-----
From: Warbles <warbler at IHUG.CO.NZ>
To: EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU <EUPHORIA at LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: QNX Euphoria?
>At 03:47 PM 7/9/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Here's a chance for Euphoria to be *really* be on the bleeding edge.
>>
>>Yesterday, QNX announced that it would soon be releasing a new operating
>>system, built over the last seven months in alliance with Amiga. Don't let
>>the 'Amiga' throw you - the operating system runs on x86 machines. Screen
>>shots of the operating system are included, and it looks like a *very*
cool
>>mix of QNX, the BeOS and iMac. See:
>>
>> http://www.qnx.com/amiga/
>
>I realise I've not had enough experience at all to know quite where my
>standing should be on this, plus other facts etc, but I always liked
>Workbench for the Amiga, and never had any problems with it.. the best part
>I think is that it fit onto a 740k floppy disk (I think, I can't remember
>using double-sided ones, but it was quite awhile ago) and didn't ever
decide
>just to stop working like other certain OS's which I won't mention.. :)
>
>J.
>
6. Re: QNX Euphoria?
--"I suggest that Robert and Pete consider..."
Good idea! The Euphoria port should work, since the Watcom compiler has long
supported QNX. Then Dave can go to work on QLlama.
The tiny os and browser appeals to me. I'm turned off by the Linux ads that
brag about their distribution requiring five cdroms.
7. Re: QNX Euphoria?
Does anyone know what the QNX OS's total cost is including needed add-on
modules. Can an average user afford to purchase it and use it on their
PC. I didn't see any prices on QNX web site.
8. Re: QNX Euphoria?
Bernie Ryan wrote:
> Does anyone know what the QNX OS's total cost is
> including needed add-on modules. Can an average
> user afford to purchase it and use it on their
> PC. I didn't see any prices on QNX web site.
No, and there was quite a bit of discussion around that on SlashDot when the
announcement was posted.
Although QNX has historically been a fairly expensive operating system, my
guess is that Amiga/QNX will be differentiated from "pure" QNX. It seems
unlikely that they will want to alienate their core market of developers by
offering what is essentially the same product at a lower price.
"Pure" QNX is sort of a build-it-yourself OS. Amiga/QNX would be a turnkey
system - all the modules in place. From that standpoint, selling add-on
modules for Amiga/QNX doesn't really make sense.
Amiga/QNX will be competing for a small niche market against the official
Amiga OS. Making their OS the more expensive of the two would make it all
the less attractive.
My guess is that the OS will have to be fairly affordable to survive in the
marketplace.
-- David Cuny
