1. Pixel graphics text alignment
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How do I align text in pixel graphics mode? What I've been doing for the
past month (which is the source of all my questions) is working on a
sophisticated college football coaching game. Right now I'm using win32lib
to work on the interface. What I want to do is make a roster window that
will add each player as an entry in a List. Each player has a jersey number,
class (Fr, So ...) and various attributes like speed, hitting, etc etc. The
reason I'm using a listbox is so you can click on the player, then click on
certain buttons like 'cut', 'move up', 'move down', open a stats window, and
so on.
I could achieve alignment if I use Courier New, since all characters are a
uniform size, but that's what I'm trying to avoid. Does anyone have an idea?
I attached an example roster, which is aligned b/c it's in text mode. I
want to try to get it looking exactly like that, but in Listboxes. Or, is
there some other medium besides Lists that will do the trick?
Thanks in advance,
Derek Brown
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Offensive Players
SPD HIT PAS AWA RUS REC BLO
QB 2 Bryant 50 17 93 84 15 32 13 =20
QB 4 Alston 57 18 87 85 17 29 33 =20
QB 11 Springer 43 19 81 84 41 38 23 =20
T 59 Leavitt 23 90 13 11 13 13 86 =20
T 64 Byars 18 87 12 14 10 15 84 =20
T 71 House 19 71 15 15 15 11 93 =20
T 77 McKellar 12 81 15 14 11 10 84 =20
T 65 Jennings 16 80 11 13 13 12 84 =20
T 50 Bass 20 90 11 12 12 13 73 =20
G 61 Blackwell 20 81 12 14 10 11 94 =20
G 66 Shumate 26 78 11 12 11 15 90 =20
G 76 Amey 31 76 14 10 15 15 83 =20
G 79 Royals 21 87 14 12 14 11 72 =20
G 73 Dreyfus 34 71 15 10 12 15 81 =20
G 78 Ritter 21 71 10 15 10 14 79 =20
C 57 Lowry 21 84 10 13 15 15 82 =20
C 67 Nelson 24 71 14 11 15 13 83 =20
C 63 Rivers 28 71 12 14 13 15 81 =20
FB 16 Freeman 42 43 11 28 70 46 64 =20
FB 49 Mack 51 65 12 19 65 28 45 =20
FB 8 Gilbert 40 47 16 18 60 48 52 =20
TB 40 Kirby 92 40 26 28 84 63 36 =20
TB 37 Spencer 90 40 19 17 84 39 35 =20
TB 6 Conley 88 37 28 16 77 28 26 =20
TE 18 Martin 61 69 14 11 17 60 52 =20
TE 87 Hedrick 53 67 10 12 17 50 55 =20
TE 26 Christian 55 67 11 14 30 52 52 =20
WR 85 Powell 86 15 14 17 13 93 21 =20
WR 81 Nixon 87 18 14 13 17 87 17 =20
WR 83 Stanley 82 20 14 15 29 87 25 =20
WR 27 Lim 89 17 26 26 38 81 24 =20
WR 22 Moran 88 10 17 17 26 78 25 =20
WR 84 Zimlich 81 19 12 21 10 79 12 =20
Defensive Players
SPD HIT TCK COV INT SBL
CB 32 Sikes 99 26 35 94 25 16 =20
CB 36 Free 84 35 31 86 62 13 =20
CB 10 Parker 90 20 20 76 14 16 =20
CB 47 Rodgers 93 32 16 71 48 14 =20
CB 23 Moser 98 16 18 65 59 19 =20
CB 9 Burge 94 15 15 66 27 18 =20
S 39 Parrish 90 33 56 65 17 12 =20
S 35 Tucker 87 29 53 68 50 16 =20
S 20 Duke 84 27 56 68 10 19 =20
S 29 Roe 81 26 55 66 56 20 =20
S 42 Tiller 78 37 49 72 59 10 =20
S 41 Owen 74 25 53 68 24 29 =20
OLB 30 Hudson 57 60 68 60 50 45 =20
OLB 12 Thompson 70 52 61 41 63 38 =20
OLB 25 Jamison 64 48 59 49 51 24 =20
OLB 45 Minor 56 43 60 58 98 38 =20
OLB 33 Paris 60 47 59 51 41 27 =20
OLB 51 Craft 68 47 53 40 58 24 =20
DE 95 Stubbs 30 75 40 21 22 89 =20
DE 74 London 28 79 52 25 26 84 =20
DE 72 Petite 20 76 60 37 27 83 =20
DE 55 Goldsmith 16 73 42 30 82 80 =20
DE 70 Erwin 27 77 47 33 86 74 =20
DE 52 Bonner 26 75 51 14 84 70 =20
DT 96 Townsend 17 95 59 11 48 88 =20
DT 56 Staley 13 95 50 13 72 86 =20
DT 98 Glaze 11 91 54 10 15 88 =20
DT 97 McIntyre 25 83 45 12 56 88 =20
DT 75 Hopkins 16 88 53 11 41 81 =20
DT 91 Rawles 23 82 58 10 73 86 =20
DT 94 Romans 12 84 45 13 12 84 =20
DT 53 Rouse 19 78 58 15 54 87 =20
DT 93 Webber 16 88 56 11 77 78 =20
Kickers and Punters
ACC STR
K 54 McCullugh 95 46 =20
P 13 McKellar 57 79 =20
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2. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Just an idea
You dont say how you are filling the listbox and that maybe your problem.
It seems to me that if you concatonate each column entry across the row
into a string (QB )+( 2)+( Bryant )+( 50) ,,,,, ETC
and then install that concatonated string into the list box, for each row
then all of the columns should line up. Changing an entry, would require
replacing the row string.
Bernie
3. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> >%_ How do I align text in pixel graphics mode? ......
> I could achieve alignment if I use Courier New, since all characters are a
> uniform size, but that's what I'm trying to avoid. Does anyone have an idea?
> I attached an example roster, which is aligned b/c it's in text mode. I
> want to try to get it looking exactly like that, but in Listboxes. Or, is
> there some other medium besides Lists that will do the trick?
Hi:
I just encountered the same problem when working with accounting reports.
Short answer, since you're using numbers in tabular format, you have no choice
but to use a monospaced font.. What's wrong with proportional fonts?
Example: four ones 1111 pack closer together than four 0000 if you
use a proportional font.
To get the columns to allign correctly you either have to use a font where all
numerals take up the same number of pixels <--> or add blank pixels between
narrower numbers, in effect, creating your own monospaced font.
If you use proportional fonts, you have to choose between having the first
characters lining up, and the right hand side being ragged, or the right side
lining up, and the left side being "misaligned"., i.e. 100 not aligning with
111 Both approaches are unattractive. It's really a typesetting problem more
than a computer one.
Irv
4. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Just an idea
> You dont say how you are filling the listbox and that maybe your problem.
>
> It seems to me that if you concatonate each column entry across the row
> into a string (QB )+( 2)+( Bryant )+( 50) ,,,,, ETC
> and then install that concatonated string into the list box, for each row
> then all of the columns should line up. Changing an entry, would require
> replacing the row string.
> Bernie
Of course that would help, the easy way is to use addItem(List1,sprintf("%12s
%4d ...",...)) to format each list entry identically (filling with spaces and
justifying each entry left or right as needed).
The problem gets worse when you try to use a proportional font, because of the
fact that different letters and numbers, for example: i,1, take up a lot less
width than H,0. Therefore, different numbers of spaces need to be added to get
the next column to line up. Pascal used to have a clunky way to measure string
widths, (in pixels) so that you could add enough extra blank pixels to the
string to get your alignment back. Maybe windows API has some kind of
text-width function? (I think Jiri's font library does - but we're talking
about Windows here)
Irv
5. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Irv
What I was thinking is that not paying any attention to what a column
contains each concatenated piece would be the same size and that
would align the columns, which might not be the same as sprintf function.
Bernie
6. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
- Posted by Irv <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
Jul 04, 1999
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Last edited Jul 05, 1999
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Irv
> What I was thinking is that not paying any attention to what a column
> contains each concatenated piece would be the same size and that
> would align the columns, which might not be the same as sprintf function.
> Bernie
If you concatenate without "padding" the fields, then they will be different
sizes:
adam (4 letters)
jefferson (9 letters)
so the following column won't line up
adam 123
jefferson 123
If instead you use sprintf("%-12s %3d",{name,number})
then you get
adam+8 spaces then the number
jefferson+3 spaces then the number.
That lines things up _if_ you are using a monospaced typeface.
adam 123
jefferson 123
Even this won't line the numbers up if you use a proportional font.
(They don't line up on my e-mail client, for example, because it uses a
proportional font. The two ff's take up less width than the m, for
example).
Irv
7. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
- Posted by Bernie Ryan <bwryan at PCOM.NET>
Jul 04, 1999
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Last edited Jul 05, 1999
Irv
Maybe you don't see what I'am getting at.
Each cell that the gliph is always so many pixels across, the kerfing
only moves the character around in that cell so wouldn't the average
misalignment be smaller because of using a smaller pieces. When your
looking at your e-mail it is being inserted into the listbox as a
continuous string. Maybe I'am wrong.
Bernie
8. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
- Posted by Irv <irv at ELLIJAY.COM>
Jul 04, 1999
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Last edited Jul 05, 1999
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Irv
> Maybe you don't see what I'am getting at.
> Each cell that the gliph is always so many pixels across, the kerfing
> only moves the character around in that cell so wouldn't the average
> misalignment be smaller because of using a smaller pieces. When your
> looking at your e-mail it is being inserted into the listbox as a
> continuous string. Maybe I'am wrong.
> Bernie
Try filling a list with strings, and changing the font, you'll
see what actually happens. There should be some kind of "tab"
setting that would line up the columns, but I don't know if Windows
implements such a thing.
Irv
9. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Derek Brown wrote:
> How do I align text in pixel graphics mode?
There is a custom control that does this, but I haven't implemented it into
Win32Lib. I think the only common controls that got implemented were the
file open/save dialogs.
The control you have in mind is typically implemented using two Custom
Controls. The first is the List View, which allows multiple columns in a
list, including optional bitmaps. The second is the Header, which is a
horizontal window for control labels.
Past that point, I really can't help. My version of Petzold doesn't really
cover the topic that well. It's possible to emulate the control, but I'm not
sure you want to go through the trouble. If you want, I can give you some
details, but it's a bit of work.
-- David Cuny
10. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
- Posted by Derek Brown <Cyrusbrown at AOL.COM>
Jul 04, 1999
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Last edited Jul 05, 1999
I appreciate all the help. I finally had to resort to using courier new,
but this might be temporary as I might look into David Cuny's suggestion.
Thanks,
Derek Brown
11. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Irv
I was wrong.
I have another solution for tab problem that I am looking into if
it works I will let everyone Know.
Bernie
12. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
David,
I am by no means an expert (and I use that term laughingly), but according
to the Win32API help file, it appears that setting the ListBox control
style to LBS_MULTICOLUMN (#200) and sending the LB_SETCOLUMNWIDTH (#195)
message to set the column width, it could do the trick. What do you think?
>Derek Brown wrote:
>
>
>> How do I align text in pixel graphics mode?
>
> David Cuny wrote:
>
>There is a custom control that does this, but I haven't implemented it into
>Win32Lib. I think the only common controls that got implemented were the
>file open/save dialogs.
>
>The control you have in mind is typically implemented using two Custom
>Controls. The first is the List View, which allows multiple columns in a
>list, including optional bitmaps. The second is the Header, which is a
>horizontal window for control labels.
>
>Past that point, I really can't help. My version of Petzold doesn't really
>cover the topic that well. It's possible to emulate the control, but I'm
not
>sure you want to go through the trouble. If you want, I can give you some
>details, but it's a bit of work.
>
13. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Gary Dumer wrote:
> it appears that setting the ListBox control style to
> LBS_MULTICOLUMN (#200) and sending the
> LB_SETCOLUMNWIDTH (#195)
> message to set the column width, it could do the trick.
No, sorry. It indeed sets up a multicolumn list, but like this:
item1 item5
item2 item6
item3
item4
Perhaps LB_SETTABSTOPS would work. I was under the impression that the
Win3.1 API supported the kind of style that's being talked about.
-- David Cuny
14. Re: Pixel graphics text alignment
Hello,
> How do I align text in pixel graphics mode?
I don't know if this problem has already been figured out or not but here's
my suggestion: use a separate list box for each collumn. I know this will
take more code just to get the lists to work together like a single box but
it could also introduce more ability than you'd have otherwise.
Just a suggestion
Lewis Townsend
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