1. Re: ee/Linux released / Win32 Graph. / New Eu Version

Tor asked:
> And what's a "voxel" ?

 VOlume piXEL.
 Sort of like defining pixels as (x,y,z) rather than doing 3D through
polygons (multiple surfaces that define an object)
 But I really don't know much about 3d-stuff like this. Differences I could
notice were 'messy' surfaces (when polygons are messed you see triangles,
here it just blurs), much, much larger viewing distance. Things far away are
not 'pixeled', but this might just be due to the anti-aliasing.

> I have tried several distributions: Slackware (2 versions), Red Hat,
Mandrake,
> and SuSE. My choice right now is SuSE, mainly because it was easiest to
> install. Slackware is just as good, and probably works better with
Euphoria.
> (Don't know yet, will try sometime this weekend)  The commercial version
of
> SuSE is available for about us$35, and well worth the price (6 cd's, a
nice
> instruction manual, Wordperfect, 60 days installation support,etc.) It has
a
> Control Center which allows the  choice of about 25 languages for many of
the
> program menus, etc just by clicking. Oops...What does:

25 Languages ? Hmm, I prefer English releases, it much 'standard' .. there's
nothing more annoying that an dialog box, with a question in English and a
'Ja' and 'Nee' button. (yes and no in dutch). Things like that.
Plus those words usually already have a meaning for me, a concrete meaning.
A directory for me is nice abstract word. In dutch they refer to maps. (or
actually the dutch word for maps).
Or the configuration-screen ... for the 'control panel'.


>  Activeren taalinstellingen
           Activate language-configurations
>    De nieuwe taalinstellingen gelden alleen voor
           The new language-configuraitons only apply to
>    toepassingen die nieuw gestart worden.
            applications that are restarted.
>    Als u de taal van alles direct wil veranderen,
            If you wish to change the defautl language of everything
immidiately
>    moet u eerst uitloggen.
           you have to log out first.


> By the way, LILO doesn't (can't) mess with your partitions. Something else
> caused your problem - most likely when you reloaded Windows (which doesn't
> bother to check for other OS's on the disk - just writes stuff over
anything
> that's already there. The worst LILO can do is to hang the boot process,
> leaving you with a >LI    prompt. This is easy to fix, either from DOS, by
> issuing an fdisk /MBR to write the original DOS boot track, or by
re-running
> LILO to put the LILO boot track back in place.

I tried. It did not work. Even a total c format with system files did not
work.
Only when I recreated my partition table it worked again. The situation was:
I had LILO installed on my c (win98) drive, since it didn't work on my linux
drive (I couldn't make it bootable), then win98 expired (internal
pre-release .. oops), I then removed Linux, Lilo still worked fine, I thenI
had to install win98 (an older version) on top of it again.  Afterwhich it
didn't boot-up any more.

> Proof of this is that I have loaded and reloaded the 5 versions of Linux
> at least 3 or 4 times each, without ever damaging any of the DOS partition
or
> data. And I am not very careful to read the on-screen instructions,
either.
> You should be very careful with fdisk, however, just as you would be with
the
> DOS version.

Maybe, I should have used an Linux fdisk program, but I didn't have linux no
more.

Irv:
>> The important thing to remember if you have Linux or OS2 or BEOS or any
other OS
> on your computer is _never_ reload Windows without making a full backup of
the
> disk first. Actually, once you get used to any of these others, you
probably
> won't want to reload Windows anyway.

Until I want to play Unreal, Outcast, Half-life or when I want to test some
html with MSIe, or when I want to check the trains and all (is a win95
program) or until I wish to use ICQ again, eh.. the list grows. Windows,
wether I like it or not, has me under total control anyway.

Irv wrote:
>  > Site Updated
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> > I finally updated my site. I lost a lot of my files due to that LILO
> > incident mentioned above. Therefor, some of the layout is redone, some
of
> > the problems are removed (no more javascript error with Netscape,
eventhough
> > I never even used Javascript ). I have no clue what it looks like with
> > Netscape though. ===
>
> The site looks great with Netscape, and with KFM (the KDE
desktop/explorer) !

Good, about time. The previous updates looked horrible when I checked them
at school recently.

Lucius wrote:
>     I will never suffer the fate of only having the proccessed files.
> I upload my templates along with my output files.  I keep a copy of
> my templates online so that if I do have a crash I won't lose them.

Yep, ah .. well, guess experience is good for something.
I was just too lazy to ever make a back-up or anything. I didn't loose all
though. I had some stuff moved to a secondairy HD I borrowed, but it wasn't
really big, so I copied even more important files. (such as school-reports,
I didn't want to loose blink

David wrote:
> There's something the matter with _my_ version? If it wasn't you writing
> this, I'd choose to be insulted.

David, relax. Cyrek version is your version plus a few little 'subtle'
things I got use to.
Such as the ascii-table just a few key-presses away, and the color-codes are
a little better.
The reason I asked was just because I knew he optimized it at a few places.
He didn't *change* anything, he merely added stuff. (like Pete did once)

> No, not suprisingly, I chose my own version. Nothing against Cyrek; it's
> just a lot easier for me that way. Sort of like Robert's insistance on
using
> ed instead of ee. blink

Yes, I noticed. But ed has it subtle differences, that set it apart. Its
just that its not really standarized and sometimes I'm using the wrong keys
for things, etc. Unlike with EE (or EE:CS) where everything comes naturally.
But if you use it on a daily basis, they both have their advantages and
disadvantages I guess.

> The main reason is code familiarity. I haven't even downloaded Cyrek's
> version. Although I'm sure that it's a fantastic update, ee has all the
> features that I wanted, so I didn't have a compelling reason to look at
> Cyrek's code.

You should try it. Just as you should have a look at Jaquesch update of your
design-tool.
Its not a matter of better or worse or David vs. some one else. Its still
your code, but some body invested some more time into it and improved it
while you were out working on any of the most used libraries of Euphoria. I
really didn't mean to offend you or anything.

Ralf N.
nieuwen at xs4all.nl
ralf_n at email.com
http://www.xs4all.nl/~nieuwen
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