OpenEuphoria

2. Re: EUtalk (was: Re: you a hobbyist or a hobbiest)

• Posted by DB James <larch at adelphia.net> Aug 03, 2005
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• Last edited Aug 04, 2005

Juergen Luethje wrote:

> Maybe we should have a second list/forum that is called say "EUtalk",
> which would be the proper place for talk about anything and everything.
> While talk like this is completely off topic on EUforum, it probably is
> important for social relationship and group feeling (I don't know
> whether these are the proper English expressions).
> 
> This already exists e.g. in the hamster.* groups on Usenet. Among other
> hamster.* groups, there are:
> - hamster.de.misc
> - hamster.de.newuser
> - hamster.de.talk
> 
> So when a discussion like this starts here, people can say: "Let's
> continue this discussion on EUtalk.", and voil=E0 ... needs for social
> communication are met there, and on EUforum people can focus on
> programming matters.
> 
> Regards,
>    Juergen

Hi Juergen,

Have to say, in all the years I've enjoyed this forum, I've rarely seen this
plea regarding off-topic.  Few users, nor Robert Craig, have ever wished to do
this.  These off-topic discussions are part of the blend of this unique forum,
and they are self-controlling, that is, they come and go organically.  They don't
really need policing.

If there were a full range of topics related to the Eu language on the board,
the off-topic stuff wouldn't stand out.  People not interested would just click
on by.

As for the true proper topic of the forum, perhaps there *is* a problem.  It is
not the discussion of the use of proper language, or whatever amuses people at
the moment.  it is the tendency for one sort of programmer to dominate the forum
for long stretches of time.  No flame is requested by me in saying this.  I am
just expressing a long-time feeling here, not blaming anyone for anything.  I
know that virtually everyone here is helpful to, and encouraging of, the new
programmer, or anyone who asks for help.

But where are the beginning and intermediate programmers as far as forum
communication goes?  Where are the small fun programs of the past?  Where are the
enthusiasms for this or that strange take on the possibilities, the audio fans,
the little game fans, the demos of something no one else had thought of?  The AI
weirdnesses?  I am all for professional programming, but it tends to get real
serious about things.  Why do we have so many libraries and so few programs
written with them?  (I think Derek was talking about trying to please some
client, and implying his sense of well-being was suffering before his namespace
meltdown. [Derek, your resignation is not accepted!])  Lighten up.

Well, as a certified Level Three programmer (and not likely to get higher
anytime soon), I will do my best for that lower level where, frankly, there is a
lot more fun.  And Juergen, and others, I'll need your help.

--Quark