1. Disgruntle Members

Hi All,
 
I would like to share the type of private E-mail I receive,
 
Everett L.(Rett) Williams wrote:
 
I don't believe that you have either the experience or the=
 knowledge 
to sound so paternal. REXX has even more power than Euphoria,=
 and
does most of the same things in many of the same ways. It has=
 much
more powerful input and output capabilities. It is fully dynamic,=
 and
suffers from some of the pitfalls and problems with any fully=
 dynamic
language. It is easy to create constructs that have performance 
problems and it is easy to miss the implications of a fully=
 dynamic 
language with inlining of variables and recursive interpretation.=
 
Anybody that has used OS2 has been exposed to the power and the 
problems of REXX. It has been ported to multiple platforms, but=
 the 
support is spotty. By the way, REXX has been around for almost 20=
 
years. This is only one example. It is certainly appropriate for=
 you 
to have an opinion, but you haven't even been around Euphoria=
 long 
enough to be aware of the duration of some of these wish lists. 
Frustration is high and it has caused many highly capable
programmers to move on, leaving only those of us stubborn enough=
 to 
think that eventually Rob will respond. Namespaces, structures,=
 and 
modularity have been issues for many years on the list.I know=
 that 
you have a business, but so do I and so do many others on this
list. I have also worked for and with businesses from mom and pop=
 up 
to multi-billion dollar enterprises. Myself and several others=
 have 
been in this field for over thirty years and are still full time=
 in 
the business. So can the "president at xyz.com" attitude and provide=
 
your reasoning and skip the lectures. We are not your employees=
 and 
your wisdom is and will remain suspect until you actually provide=
 
some technical analysis in place of  your "advice".

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2. Re: Disgruntle Members

One last suggestion for this evening.

I have found a very nice freeware editor that works wonderfully with
Euphoria. It is called ConTEXT and may be found at

http://www.fixedsys.com/context

It offers syntax highlighting -- did not have a Euphoria syntax highlighted
but I made one using as a prototype another highlighter (will be happy to
send it to anyone interested).

The really wondeful thing about it is that hitting Ctrl-F12 executes a
Shell-Execute, i.e. saves and runs the Euphoria file you are editing with
its associated application, i.e. exw.exe or ex.exe. So, editing a Euphoria
file involves just typing away and then occasionally hitting Ctrl-F12! This
happens in an instant!

When I think of the cycle of complilation, linking, executing, I shudder!

John Paravantis

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3. Re: Disgruntle Members

>Hi All,
> 
>I would like to share the type of private E-mail I receive,
<snip>

Hello again Christopher,

I say "again" as I also just sent you a private email.  However it will be
the last and for this simple reason.  If I send someone a private email I
do not expect it to then be posted to a public email list server which gets
archived on a web site for all to see and search through.

For the president of a company this is not setting a good example of
yourself or of the standards we should expect from your company.  If you
can't respect someones privacy then fine - but equally don't expect me to
trust you or your company either.

Thankyou and good night!

A disgruntled FP.

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4. Re: Disgruntle Members

Hi FP,

I have receive hundreds of emails a day, and 10 percent of them=
 are 
from EU members. Some are good, and some are bad, but I never=
 post 
them. Believe me when I tell you have have received some funny 
e-mails. In this case I was making a point. We are all discussing=
 an 
issue in a forum, why then should a member take it upon his/her=
 self 
to e-mail me privately and bash my opinions? Why not share their=
 
views with the rest of the members as I do? If you feel FP, you 
should not e-mail me privately then don't. You and I will both=
 not 
lose sleep on this.

:) Too Funny

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5. Re: Disgruntle Members

Prez,

Everett doesn't reply to the list because he was sufficiently disgruntled as
to offer Rob a deal:  he would LEAVE the list, in return for a copy of
non-PD Euphoria, and NEVER post his comments and dissatisfaction here again.
He has honored his agreement COMPLETELY, that's why he occasionally writes
to list members PRIVATELY.

Dan Moyer

----- Original Message -----
From: <president at insight-concepts.com>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Disgruntle Members




Hi FP,

I have receive hundreds of emails a day, and 10 percent of them are
from EU members. Some are good, and some are bad, but I never post
them. Believe me when I tell you have have received some funny
e-mails. In this case I was making a point. We are all discussing an
issue in a forum, why then should a member take it upon his/her self
to e-mail me privately and bash my opinions? Why not share their
views with the rest of the members as I do? If you feel FP, you
should not e-mail me privately then don't. You and I will both not
lose sleep on this.

:) Too Funny

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