OpenEuphoria

2. Re: Hang on just a second!

• Posted by euman at bellsouth.net Jul 03, 2001
• 351 views

I didnt mean to single anyone out just make a point.
I am notorious for asking questions and most of them
dumb questions.

I am trying to learn the API myself only to better my
standing as a programmer (if you will).
I dont get paid very much to program PC's but very well
for Industrial PLC's.

If there were more people that knew the API and that
could read and understand Win32lib (at this point)
Euphoria would be the choice of many-many programmers.

The next little program I am about to release shows
alternative functions to Fonts, Menus, Bitmaps and printing
that Win32lib handles sortof (what I call wierd) differently.

For instance, why have a drawn out way to load a bitmap
or strugle with fonts and the menu system really needs
alot of attention and printing is not what I would call self
explanatory. I will eventually contribute to the lib but am
not up to the speed that it would take to do this. 
(if win32lib were more straight forward and didnt jump
thru hoops to do things) It would make it easier for me.

If those who complain want a leg up on makeing changes
or adding functionality, the only way to do this is to learn it.

Euman
euman at bellsouth.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <paravantis at otenet.gr>
To: "EUforum" <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 16:17
Subject: Hang on just a second!


> 
> 
> > Just last week someone asked how to make RichEdit
> > accept files larger than 65k and I replied with
> > EM_EXLIMITTEXT which can be found in the SDK.
> >
> > Sure the person that needed this info didnt look before
> > he/she asked the question. Am I to assume that to drive the
> > car you mentioned earlier doesnt require we take a road test
> > first or learn how to start the engine?
> >
> > True, knowing the engine and metalurgy isnt/shouldnt be
> > required to drive the car but isnt that the same as MS
> > doing the work and making the DLL's that we use to API program?
> >
> > After all, we have the keys to this car in their SDK all
> > we have to do now is turn the key to start the engine........
> 
> Since I happen to be the individual who could not figure out how to expand a
> RichEdit control beyond 64 Kb, I feel I should now contribute a bit of my
> thoughts to the fray.
> 
> Perhaps Euman (and many other worthly persons) knows his way around the SDK
> documentation including details on EM_LIMITTEXT and how this differs from
> EM_EXLIMITTEXT and so forth. The thing is, I don't (I only found out about
> the Win32.hlp file a week ago and about the SDK documentation a few days
> ago) and I am not inclined to find out because I do not have the time -- for
> me programming is a tool NOT a full time occupation. If using Euphoria
> presented pretty much the same formidable learning curve that one is faced
> with when attempting to program the Windows API with C, I would simply opt
> for another language.
> 
> For me (an academic teacher), Euphoria's worth is foremostly attibuted to
> Win32Lib and secondarily to its superb yet simple data types. IF WIN32LIB
> DID NOT EXIST I WOULD HAVE NOT PURCHASED EUPHORIA, PERIOD. It is true though
> that I would have liked to have had a 'perfect' Win32Lib from the outset. In
> the last year or so, Win32Lib has improved but, if I may say so without
> belittling in the slightest the amazing team that put it together, not so
> dramatically as to elevate Euphoria to a mature language for creating
> Windows applications.
> 
> In fact, this is I think may be an important point for RDS: perhaps the
> author of Euphoria could have reached an agreement with the Win32Lib with
> the objective of facilitating and expediting the production of a
> professional Win32Lib that would be included in the Euphoria package.
> 
> Respectfully to all parties in this discussion,
> John Paravantis
> University of Piraeus
> Greece
> 
> 
> 
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