1. OT: Vista relief
- Posted by DB James <larches at c?mcas?.net>
Aug 28, 2007
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Last edited Aug 29, 2007
Due to the computer gods getting frisky and trashing my old system, I now
have a new computer. With Vista (whoopee). After fighting the new
front-and-center User Access Control that is the pride of MS, I turned the
thing off and felt an instant relief as I can now do things without being
nagged and can do things that couldn't be done at all, as far as I could see.
As for security concerns, time will tell if problems arise, but I can testify
that when security becomes the main function of life, the day is a more than
a little grayer.
--Quark
2. Re: OT: Vista relief
- Posted by Jerry Story <story.jerry at gmai?.?om>
Aug 28, 2007
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Last edited Aug 29, 2007
DB James wrote:
>
> Due to the computer gods getting frisky and trashing my old system, I now
> have a new computer. With Vista (whoopee). After fighting the new
> front-and-center User Access Control that is the pride of MS, I turned the
> thing off and felt an instant relief as I can now do things without being
> nagged and can do things that couldn't be done at all, as far as I could see.
>
> As for security concerns, time will tell if problems arise, but I can testify
> that when security becomes the main function of life, the day is a more than
> a little grayer.
>
> --Quark
I also recently got a new computer, because my previous computer
got fried by a voltage surge.
I also got a better surge suppressor (4140 joules).
And the new computer came with Windows Vista.
I have 2 internal hard drives and 1 external USB hard drive.
Vista on the 1st hard drive.
Ubuntu Feisty on the 2nd hard drive.
External hard drive for backups and spare room.
External hard drive was formatted with Ubuntu.
A few observations.
Vista apparently doesn't like GNU/Linux. Vista won't recognize
the external hard drive, which is okay, but Vista apparently does
something that causes Ubuntu to not recognize the external hard drive.
I had to remount the partitions in the external hard drive.
Now when I boot to Vista (which probably won't be very often),
I switch off the external hard drive first. That way Vista doesn't mess
with it. I switch off both the router and the external hard drive
by switching off the surge suppressor that both are plugged into.
Vista doesn't get a chance to get viruses either.
Ubuntu has no problem reading a NTFS format, with a little piece of
software. Microsoft, on the other hand, seems to be loath to acknowledge
the existence of GNU/Linux.
There is lots of room on the Vista hard drive (500 gigs) for Ubuntu
to store stuff on.
3. Re: OT: Vista relief
Sugestion for OT posts:
Maybee Rob should make a sticky post for OT threads, thatway the Eu community
could post social comments not related to Eu there...
BTW: I got new computer too. One of many ex Gov. workstations that we replaced
with new ones. I'm now running a Dell OptiPlex GX270, P4 Core2 Duo w/HT (32bit).
I'm still sticken' to XP pro at the moment 'cause it's faster, relibale and safe.
Many people that have bought computers lately have returned them for replace
Vista with Xp Media Center or XP Pro. I hav'nt used Vista though, only done some
Vista instalations.
4. Re: OT: Vista relief
Jerry Story wrote:
>
> DB James wrote:
> >
> > Due to the computer gods getting frisky and trashing my old system, I now
> > have a new computer. With Vista (whoopee). After fighting the new
> > front-and-center User Access Control that is the pride of MS, I turned the
> > thing off and felt an instant relief as I can now do things without being
> > nagged and can do things that couldn't be done at all, as far as I could
> > see.
> >
> > As for security concerns, time will tell if problems arise, but I can
> > testify
> > that when security becomes the main function of life, the day is a more than
> > a little grayer.
> >
> > --Quark
>
> I also recently got a new computer, because my previous computer
> got fried by a voltage surge.
> I also got a better surge suppressor (4140 joules).
> And the new computer came with Windows Vista.
>
> I have 2 internal hard drives and 1 external USB hard drive.
> Vista on the 1st hard drive.
> Ubuntu Feisty on the 2nd hard drive.
> External hard drive for backups and spare room.
> External hard drive was formatted with Ubuntu.
>
> A few observations.
>
> Vista apparently doesn't like GNU/Linux. Vista won't recognize
> the external hard drive, which is okay, but Vista apparently does
> something that causes Ubuntu to not recognize the external hard drive.
> I had to remount the partitions in the external hard drive.
>
> Now when I boot to Vista (which probably won't be very often),
> I switch off the external hard drive first. That way Vista doesn't mess
> with it. I switch off both the router and the external hard drive
> by switching off the surge suppressor that both are plugged into.
> Vista doesn't get a chance to get viruses either.
>
> Ubuntu has no problem reading a NTFS format, with a little piece of
> software. Microsoft, on the other hand, seems to be loath to acknowledge
> the existence of GNU/Linux.
>
> There is lots of room on the Vista hard drive (500 gigs) for Ubuntu
> to store stuff on.
If you want to run Linux, and keep all your hard disks readable/writable for
Vista (NTFS/FAT), then you should look at Microsoft Virtual PC. It's quite fast,
reliable and freeware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_PC
5. Re: OT: Vista relief
Could you step through how you turn this gizmo off?
6. Re: OT: Vista relief
George Walters wrote:
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> Could you step through how you turn this gizmo off?
Do you mean me? A quote would help us to know what you are responding to.
What gizmo? The external hard drive? It has a switch.
The router? It has a switch.
The surge suppressor that both are plugged into? It has a switch.
There is no need for a shutdown process for the drive. Just make sure
it's not doing anything at the time.
example 1:
Ubuntu is running.
Turn switch to router and ext. drive off.
Restart to Vista.
example 2:
Vista is running.
Turn switch to router and ext. drive on.
Restart to Ubuntu.
7. Re: OT: Vista relief
George Walters wrote:
>
> Could you step through how you turn this gizmo off?
Gladly.
CONTROL PANEL ==> USER ACCOUNTS ==> TURN USER ACCOUNT CONTROL ON OR OFF
--Quark
8. Re: OT: Vista relief
- Posted by Gary Shingles <eu at 531?i?co.nz>
Aug 29, 2007
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Last edited Aug 30, 2007
Hayden McKay wrote:
> If you want to run Linux, and keep all your hard disks readable/writable for
> Vista (NTFS/FAT),
> then you should look at Microsoft Virtual PC. It's quite fast, reliable and
> freeware: <a
> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_PC">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_PC</a>
Or VMWare Server, It's fast, reliable, free, and in my experience much more
useful. http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
Gary
