1. Win4Eu (was Re: .il code/file questions)

Tommy Carlier wrote:
> 
> cklester wrote:
> > Tommy, sounds like you need to up the release date on that Win4Eu stuff.
> 
> I have a working version. With 'working version', I mean: you can create
> the following types of Controls:
> - Window
> 
> There is no documentation yet, except the few comments in the code.
> I could release it, but it wouldn't be very impressive. It also wouldn't
> be very useful for most people.
> 

Perhaps, but speaking from personal experience (which I don't always 
follow), it's probably better to release something, otherwise it
ends up languishing on your hard drive.  If other people see it, they
might have good suggestions or even contributions.  Plus they may bug
you more often about the next release, which may motivate you to work
on it some more (if you can stop counting tokens for a few minutes).

Matt Lewis

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2. Re: Win4Eu (was Re: .il code/file questions)

Matt Lewis wrote:
> Tommy Carlier wrote:
> > cklester wrote:
> > > Tommy, sounds like you need to up the release date on that Win4Eu stuff.
> > 
> > I have a working version. With 'working version', I mean: you can create
> > the following types of Controls:
> > - Window
> > 
> > There is no documentation yet, except the few comments in the code.
> > I could release it, but it wouldn't be very impressive. It also wouldn't
> > be very useful for most people.
> Perhaps, but speaking from personal experience (which I don't always 
> follow), it's probably better to release something, otherwise it
> ends up languishing on your hard drive.  If other people see it, they
> might have good suggestions or even contributions.  Plus they may bug
> you more often about the next release, which may motivate you to work
> on it some more (if you can stop counting tokens for a few minutes).

You're right about that. As soon as I have a first version, with the
basic controls and functionality, releases will come fast.

About the motivation: I'm very motivated to create Win4Eu. Not only
because it will be useful for myself and other people, to make programming
easier, but also for the experience, and to see if I can really
realize my vision, to accomplish something huge.
You are totally right about motivation by pressure: after I released
Kanarie, there wasn't a lot of response. So I neglected the Kanarie-
project. Then Juergen started using it, and he asked me some questions.
So I picked up on Kanarie, to solve his problems. He also gave me some
suggestions. Without the positive pressure of Juergen, Kanarie wouldn't
have grown into the great thing it is now.

About 'if you can stop counting tokens for a few minutes': I quit the
contest long time ago. I only sent 2 submissions, and then stopped,
to spend all my time on Win4Eu (and Kanarie, when necessary).
I also stopped active development of Win32Dib, EuControls and LayoutPanels,
because I will integrate a lot of the functionality of those libraries
into Win4Eu.

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