1. 2.5 Release

Any Day Now?
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Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
Subject: Re: preprocessor


I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
people will find. smile
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Kenneth Rhodes
100% MicroSoft Free!

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2. Re: 2.5 Release

Ken Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Any Day Now?
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
> From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
> Subject: Re: preprocessor
> 
> 
> I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
> estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
> it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
> beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
> people will find. smile
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I'll need maybe 5-7 days to:
   - port some last-minute changes back to Linux and FreeBSD
   - proof-read / polish the docs again
   - update the Web site
   - last-minute final tests of code and install program
   - anything else I think of at the last minute

Since I'll be selling 2.5 alpha right from the get go,
I have to be sure it's well tested, by me at least.

The final stages of this release took a bit longer 
because of all the structural changes. The binder is totally new.
There's a new stand-alone "back-end" that you bind with. 
My build procedures are totally different now. The translator 
is needed to build the interpreter (front-end). The interpreter 
is used, initially at least, to run the translator, until I have
a translated .exe for the translator. This makes
porting more "interesting", though not much harder.
The Public Domain source is automatically extracted from 
my full source, and has to be tested. In some cases 
it has helped me to to locate front-end bugs since 
I can run it with (a stable version of) the interpreter, 
and catch subscript errors etc. Things have changed greatly from
my point of view, but there won't be a huge number
of new external features. With much more Euphoria code, and
much less C code, and more sharing of code, it will be 
easier to maintain and enhance everything going forward.
Users will be able to add/modify any feature they like.
I expect the front-end in particular will improve 
with many eyes examining it.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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3. Re: 2.5 Release

Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> Ken Rhodes wrote:
> > 
> > Any Day Now?
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
> > From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
> > Subject: Re: preprocessor
> > 
> > 
> > I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
> > estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
> > it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
> > beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
> > people will find. smile
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I'll need maybe 5-7 days to:
>    - port some last-minute changes back to Linux and FreeBSD
>    - proof-read / polish the docs again
>    - update the Web site
>    - last-minute final tests of code and install program
>    - anything else I think of at the last minute
> 
> Since I'll be selling 2.5 alpha right from the get go,
> I have to be sure it's well tested, by me at least.
> 
> The final stages of this release took a bit longer 
> because of all the structural changes. The binder is totally new.
> There's a new stand-alone "back-end" that you bind with. 
> My build procedures are totally different now. The translator 
> is needed to build the interpreter (front-end). The interpreter 
> is used, initially at least, to run the translator, until I have
> a translated .exe for the translator. This makes
> porting more "interesting", though not much harder.
> The Public Domain source is automatically extracted from 
> my full source, and has to be tested. In some cases 
> it has helped me to to locate front-end bugs since 
> I can run it with (a stable version of) the interpreter, 
> and catch subscript errors etc. Things have changed greatly from
> my point of view, but there won't be a huge number
> of new external features. With much more Euphoria code, and
> much less C code, and more sharing of code, it will be 
> easier to maintain and enhance everything going forward.
> Users will be able to add/modify any feature they like.
> I expect the front-end in particular will improve 
> with many eyes examining it.
> 
> Regards,
>    Rob Craig
>    Rapid Deployment Software
>    <a href="http://www.RapidEuphoria.com">http://www.RapidEuphoria.com</a>
> 

Cool, I'm looking forward to the 2.5 release. I hope that you (Rob)
considered my suggestion to fix the include statement issue for
EU 2.5. And for EU 2.6+ consider improving the namespace feature,
improving routine_id(), bug fixes, and stuff like that.

For now I'm excited with the new $ feature, crash handler,
binder/shrouder, fully parsed code before execution, and the
open source EU interpreter; Plus anything else that may of
been done.

Vincent

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4. Re: 2.5 Release

Robert Craig wrote:
> 
> Ken Rhodes wrote:
> > 
> > Any Day Now?
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
> > From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
> > Subject: Re: preprocessor
> > 
> > 
> > I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
> > estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
> > it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
> > beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
> > people will find. smile
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I'll need maybe 5-7 days to:

That's great news. It'll give me 3,4, maybe 5 days with Halo 2 first. 

Excellent!

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia

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5. Re: 2.5 Release

Ken Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Any Day Now?
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
> From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
> Subject: Re: preprocessor
> 
> 
> I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
> estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
> it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
> beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
> people will find. smile
> -----------------------------------------------------------------

That's 10 days CDN.

Because of the extreme amount of cold in Canada, everything moves slower 
there. I don't know the current exchange rate, but I'm guessing that 
converts to about another month. 

Irv

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6. Re: 2.5 Release

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "irv mullins" <guest at RapidEuphoria.com>
To: <EUforum at topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: 2.5 Release


> 
> 
> posted by: irv mullins <irvm at ellijay.com>
> 
> Ken Rhodes wrote:
>> 
>> Any Day Now?
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Date: 2004 Oct 27 4:19
>> From: Robert Craig <rds at RapidEuphoria.com>
>> Subject: Re: preprocessor
>> 
>> 
>> I'm guessing it will be another 10 days, but all my previous
>> estimates have been wrong. So much code has been rewritten, 
>> it might be necessary to have two alpha releases before the 
>> beta release. Things look solid to me, but who knows what you 
>> people will find. smile
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> That's 10 days CDN.
> 
> Because of the extreme amount of cold in Canada, everything moves slower 
> there. I don't know the current exchange rate, but I'm guessing that 
> converts to about another month. 
> 
> Irv
> 

LOL
That was good.
That was too good.

    unkmar - Thanks, I needed the laugh.

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