1. Mangling of mails (was: fraclib.e)

What the hell is sometimes happening to mails on this list?!
It is at least the 3rd time, that one of my mails were changed on the
way from my PC to this list! Other people on this list have had this
problem too, and on the other hand, I never had such a problem with my
E-Mail provider. (To test it right now, I sent the same mail to myself,
and no problem occured.) So I strongly belive that it has something to
do specifically with this list.

In the past, the last part of each mail was cut off silently. Now the
"ghost" has become more polite and additionally inserts the comment
'<snip>' at the position, where it snipped the mail ...

Well, in my previous post, nothing essential that I wanted to tell Jim
got lost, but nevertheless I absolutely don't like that my mails get
mangled!

Not amused,
   Juergen

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2. Re: Mangling of mails (was: fraclib.e)

Juergen Luethje wrote:
>
> What the hell is sometimes happening to mails on this list?!
>...

It's not the hell nor a "ghost": probably it's Rob's 'intelligent' List
filter! Rob?

May be you have to write your lines like

puts(1,"   ...  line1....")     
     ..
     ..
     ..
puts(1,"   ...  lineN....")  

to trick it!   

Have a nice day, Rolf

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3. Re: Mangling of mails (was: fraclib.e)

On 21 Jan 2003, at 12:29, Juergen Luethje wrote:

>
> What the hell is sometimes happening to mails on this list?!
> It is at least the 3rd time, that one of my mails were changed on the
> way from my PC to this list! Other people on this list have had this
> problem too, and on the other hand, I never had such a problem with my
> E-Mail provider. (To test it right now, I sent the same mail to myself,
> and no problem occured.) So I strongly belive that it has something to
> do specifically with this list.
>
Maybe Rob's moderating robot... (as I don't see nothing like in other
Topica <blaaargh> lists.)

> In the past, the last part of each mail was cut off silently. Now the
> "ghost" has become more polite and additionally inserts the comment
> '<snip>' at the position, where it snipped the mail ...
>
Could be a missing flag?!

> Well, in my previous post, nothing essential that I wanted to tell Jim
> got lost, but nevertheless I absolutely don't like that my mails get
> mangled!
>
Well, me too. I think this is the price to pay to avoid virus and spam.
(Though I don't see this kind of trouble -- that much -- on other
lists...) To make a long story short: I rather filter my own mail by
myself! I don't think a robot or someone else knows what IS or what IS
NOT important to me.

> Not amused,
>    Juergen
>
Second, either,

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4. Re: Mangling of mails (was: fraclib.e)

Juergen Luethje writes:
> What the hell is sometimes happening to mails on this list?!

ListFilter sets a limit of 100 consecutive lines of 
quoted material. After that it inserts "<snip>".
It has been that way for more than a year.
I don't recall anyone complaining, or even noticing.

I got tired of reading a 500-line message,
then immediately reading a reply message consisting of a quick
remark, and then the same 500-line message quoted.
It requires too much scrolling to find out if there is
any more original material coming.

The other "mangling" that ListFilter does, is to
delete those Yahoo, Hotmail and other ads
that are attached at the end of some people's
messages. If ListFilter sees that your messages consistently 
have these ads, it will start scanning your messages,
looking for long lines of dashes, equals signs, or underscores 
(that introduce ads). So be careful not to use these 
lines in your message, or they might be misinterpreted 
as the start of an ad. The 90% who don't have ads 
needn't worry about this.

Regards,
   Rob Craig
   Rapid Deployment Software
   http://www.RapidEuphoria.com

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