1. G'day, Sprites et.al.
- Posted by "Graeme." <hmi at POWERUP.COM.AU> Dec 14, 1997
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G'day all, I've been off-line since late September, not that anyone will have noticed this as I generally just lurk, but I thought I'd check in anyway. I was up until 3am last night wading through the digests for the last few months; looks like it's all happening eh? I'm not going to have a go at Euw yet, I'm just starting to get the hang of 1.5a, but there have been a number of intriguing projects being discussed. I haven't had a chance to check any of it out but the modex library sounds great. I'm personally very interested in hearing about the traveling salesman bit, but don't have time to waste on such frivolities (I hate boxing games, but Choplifter is legendary). There was mention of a Bard's Tale type RPG graphics engine that sounds good (haven't checked out the pics). Ralf's nextGFX is no doubt up to scratch as well There was also a few bloody good laughs amongst it; thank Allah for giving us the sense of humor, which when remaining on the topic is of immeasurable value to the planet's mental health. While I was away I've been working on a sprite based game system, which is coming along quite nicely. So far I have written: -- A 64x64x64 3D Sprite editor/ray-tracer that will calculate ray-traced 2D sprites from a 3D sprite at any angle. -- A simple and quick image compression routine that does a pretty god job on hand-made bitmaps and sprites (up to 95% compression for simple images), but I suspect would be next to useless on digitized photos or data. -- A sprite engine that so far has; integrated background tiling with corner rounding so the tiles don't look like Lego blocks; unlimited number and size of sprites, maps, tiles, bitmaps, etc.; pixel perfect collision detection; a set-and- forget internal micro language for pre- programming sprite movements, animations and other internal functions; works in any graphics mode (I hope! - my system crashes trying to use any pixel graphics modes other than 19 and 261, but it works in those two anyway); built in mouse and font support. -- A map editor for the making background tile maps. I am still working on a GUI style sprite program editor for speedy game writing - at the moment I still have to scratch my head and figure out the numbers. The program editor is my first project based on the sprite engine, which seems to be working well in this capacity. Buttons can be declared as sprites and checked for collision with the mouse pointer (which is also a sprite), then animated so they move. In writing all of this I have relied heavily on Michael Bolin's "e_mem_copy" (which is excellent and does NOT produce causeway errors unless you stuff up), and Pete Eberlein's "svga.e.", which I have butchered to produce a Vdisplay_image routine using much the same methods as Ralf was talking about a while back (2am this morning for me!). Frame rates for the engine so far, are about 220 fps in mode 19 for 20 animated, pre-programmed 64x64* sprites with collision detection. It plummets to about 30 fps in mode 261. which is barely adequate (I'll have to do a bit more head-scratching here). These figures are for my P-120 with crappy old S3 1Meg card. It has a few other nifty little features like a lock() command to determine whether sprite co-ords are relative to the background or the screen, and sprite direction registers for automatic image changing depending on the direction a sprite is traveling. It takes care of off screen sprites, hiding them when they are out of view (there is no limit to sprite xy positions although so far there is no collision detection off-screen). The engine works on a single virtual screen that is completely cleaned up at each update so the parent program can safely write to it at any time. *64x64 is a maximum size. Actual sizes vary depending on the animation frame (all sprites are automatically edge-clipped). I can't really post any of this yet as it is all still needs a few things here and there and it's all integrated using custom compressed image and map formats. However if anybody is interested in a particular element, drop me a line and I'll see if I can rip out a bit of code for you. I should have a demo out pretty soon, I work six days a week as a builders' labourer so I don't have much time. ( it's now 5 O'clock Sunday afternoon and all I've done is read the digests and written this post.) By the way, as a genuine Australian still roaming free in my natural habitat, I cannot help but notice the proliferation of "gidday"s on the list. If you must, it's "g'day" (abbr. of "good day"). There is no vowel sound in between the G abd the D. Nobody says gidday, unless you're a Kiwi (-: -- Hi Jiri, love your work. If anybody is interested, my new E-Mail address is hmi at powerup.com.au Thanking you all for your continuing contributions that go the extra hard yards to make Euphoria the brilliant tool that it is. Graeme.
2. Re: G'day, Sprites et.al.
- Posted by Arthur Adamson <euclid at ISOC.NET> Dec 21, 1997
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>sounds great. I'm personally very interested in hearing >about the traveling salesman bit, but don't have time to g'day. I am Art Adamson and sort of the nucleus of the very small Salesman's community which is fairly dormant just now. However, let me know when you want to know more (ie, when you get your mind off graphics:). Bye, Art Cincinnati retired engineer...now spending some spare time on Smalltalk. Arthur P. Adamson, The Engine Man, euclid at isoc.net